Spain: 2 cents 2018-2019, km1145, differences [Risolto]

2018 with both differences.

Hi there.

I’m new to the website, but it’s been helping me a lot the past few Months.

I decided to join, as I found that 2018 coins have both differences, and wanted to share this.

In my opinion, the two coins are identical.

Just as an aside, in 2021 we thought Numismaster was dead. KM# 1145 now includes coins through 2024.

https://numismaster.com/MC_190659

I thought that at first too.

But the 2 and the C in Cent looks different.

Plus, the lines on one don’t line up at the end.

I can try and get better pictures of them if need be?

A very good idea, thanks.

The pictures aren't very clear. You can't see if the angles on 2 are straight or rounded. And it's also difficult to see where the lines between the 2 and the globe exactly end.

But what you can see without any doubt is the length of the lowest lines above the globe and the position of the star. The black arrows are copy/pasted so the length is identical. Which is the ultimate proof these are the two different variants within the same year 2018, despite the not so clear pictures;

I hadn’t noticed the lines above the globe looking different until you said.

I’ll try and get better pictures of these so they are much more clearer.

Thank you for spotting a difference with these two.

That's due to wear and tear (usage).

1. First picture is the straight one.

2. Second picture is the rounded one.

1. Lines are thiner and near rim.

2. Lines are thicker and away from rim.

Top right line is most noticeable.

1. Lines bottom left of globe line up from top tip.

2. Lines bottom left of globe don’t line up from top tip.

1. 2 is much more thinner and pointed.

2. 2 is much more thicker and round.

Same for C in Cent.

Should be able to zoom into these pictures to view them better. That’s the best I can describe the differences.

What is due to wear and tear?

Essor Prof

What is due to wear and tear?

The lines between the stars and the rim, but the two's can now be seen as different….

The star (with the black arrow) can't change places due to wear and tear. So even with the original pictures it was already obvious Meowcall indeed had the two variants of the 2018 coin.

Glad I could help with this find. ^-^

As you all know, I'm very much occupied with variants, so I'm happy each time a new one is detected. Can I just have one more image of the coin with a mirror to assure the year corresponds to obvers? As soon as I have that, I'll change my documentation of the 2 cents from 2018 according to the findings of Meowcall.

As in, getting a picture of both sides with a mirror? I’m new to this, so sorry for being akward.

Ah, that helps a lot, thank you.

I gave it a try, but I need to borrow a better camera from someone, as it just comes out blurry on my phone every time. May take a bit before I can send the pictures.

Just move the phone a bit further away and then crop the image afterward. I used my phone to make the images.

Ah, that helps a lot, thank you.

I gave it a try, but I need to borrow a better camera from someone, as it just comes out blurry on my phone every time. May take a bit before I can send the pictures.

Didn’t mean to send that twice. I didn’t even press the send button.

Seems buggy when I’m using mobile, so guess I’ll be replying on computer from now on. XD

But, I shall give it another try in a bit.

Are these okay?

It looks like you've made pictures from the two coins together. The purpose is you make a picture of one coin so you can see obverse and reverse from the same coin together. Afterwards a picture of the other coin the same way.

Now you've taken a picture from the reverse of 1 coin and the obverse of the other at the same time (and vice versa).

I don’t understand what you mean?

I took a picture of one of them, and swapped it for the other one.

Unless the edge is making it look like I put both together with the line in the middle, I did one at a time.

All the 2 euro cent coins have that groove on the edge, so it's normal it looks like that😉 Nothing has been manipulated in the set-up!

Sjoelund

All the 2 euro cent coins have that groove on the edge, so it's normal it looks like that😉 Nothing has been manipulated in the set-up!

Hahaha, my mistake. I haven't added my euro coins to the Numista database yet (nor any other European coin yet) so I didn't know there was a groove on the 2 euro cent coins. But I certainly wasn't implying anybody was manipulating anything. I just thought there was a misunderstanding somewhere and the pictures were taken with the two coins against each other. Turns out the misunderstanding was me.

Meowcall

I don’t understand what you mean?

Unless the edge is making it look like I put both together with the line in the middle, I did one at a time.

Apologize, my mistake. As explained in the previous post, I was mislead by the groove in the 2 euro cents. 

Not a problem😄

No worries. ^-^

Hi everybody, I can confirm that both versions of the reverse (old and new) exist for the 1, 2, and 5 Euro Cents from 2018. I myself have both versions for the 1 and 5 Euro Cents, and this post has shown that both versions also exist for the 2 Euro Cents.

For the rest of the Euro Cent denominations, the changeover was made to the 20 Euro Cent coin throughout 2023, with both versions available that year. 

For the 10 and 50 Euro Cent coins, the new reverse is also now visible in the 2025 series I purchased. I don't know if the changeover took place throughout 2024 (the ones I've been able to find still had the old reverse) and both versions are available that year, or if the changeover began in 2025.

Is this OK?

I think everything is ok, but the comment at the bottom in yellow, if I have not misunderstood, indicates that the coincidence of the two variants in the same year (2018) only happens in the 2 euro cents, when in the coins of 1 and 5 the same thing happens, there are the 2 variants in the same year 2018.

Hi Oscar,

if you agree to this amended documentation, you can make the CR?

Best regards

Ole

 On the yellow line change ‘form 2018’ to ‘from 2018’ please. 

Done

Sjoelund

Done

Done, many thanks!!!!