Add Cimmerians [Risolto]

Hi, I found this coin, which is listed under the Cimmerians. Can it be added?

I don't really know under which head issuer it would go. Doesn't really seem Greek.

Trooper8

Hi, I found this coin, which is listed under the Cimmerians. Can it be added?

I don't really know under which head issuer it would go. Doesn't really seem Greek.

Similar types are under Kings of Lydia: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=&ca=30&no=340*&v=&i=&b=&d=&ie=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

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Trooper8

Hi, I found this coin, which is listed under the Cimmerians. Can it be added?

I don't really know under which head issuer it would go. Doesn't really seem Greek.

Similar types are under Kings of Lydia: https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?r=&ct=coin&im1=&im2=&tb=y&tc=y&tn=y&tp=y&tt=y&cat=y&ru=&ca=30&no=340*&v=&i=&b=&d=&ie=&u=&a=&dg=&m=&f=&t=&w=&mt=&g=&se=&c=&wi=&sw=

I know. GCV puts them under Lydia, but as “Barbarous imitations, struck by the Cimmerians”. And since the Lydians didn't struck them, I don't see why they should be put under Lydia.

If Cimmerians conquered Lydia and struck coins there, then it should be under Lydia but with specific ruling authority. I know nothing about this history

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If Cimmerians conquered Lydia and struck coins there, then it should be under Lydia but with specific ruling authority. I know nothing about this history

Yes, they conquered Lydia after many tries. But I don't know at which point they minted these coins. Also, the question is if it becomes a different issuer because of that or not. I don't know what the guidelines say about that. I guess it makes a difference if something is truly captured or if it's just occupied.

But I can also just read some Wikipedia pages.

So any decision on this yet?

Trooper8

So any decision on this yet?

I must confess I thought you'd enlighten us after reading some doc ^^

Had no time to dig sorry…

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Trooper8

So any decision on this yet?

I must confess I thought you'd enlighten us after reading some doc ^^

Had no time to dig sorry…

Well, I don't really know how to research that tbh. How I understood it, the one way it should be listed under Lydia as a ruling authority is if they conquered Lydia and then minted coins. Lydia was conquered by them, but there were like over 4 wars between them. And I don't think one can really tell in which exact time these coins were minted.

But would they make such bad imitation after they conquered them? I guess if they killed everyone who knew how to do it properly. So I also really don't know.

Ok, after quick reading I created Cimmerians as issuer.

We can iterate if needed after a specialist pops in this convo :-)