Selecting items in top level categories and not in subcategories

To further sort out coins, medals, tokens … it is necessary to be able to find them in the catalogue.

For the moment one cannot select items that are not sorted into one of the subcategories (eg. token that is only listed as “token”, or coin only listed as “coin”, but also service token that is not in one of the subcategories …

example, try to find items like this one that are just listed as “medal”: N#439327

I'm assuming it's a bug that we cannot select the top category without having at least one subcategory selected.

I can find that medal in a search.

But it doesn't seem in appropriate to allow something to be in the top category if the sub-categories are intended to cover all the cases. If items exist that don't fit the category scheme my preference would be an “Other” category ("Other Coin type", “Other Medal type”, “Other Token type”, …) and keep the top level empty.

bjherbison

I can find that medal in a search.

Of course you can find it, but I would like to find all medals that are in top category.

Adding an “other” in every level would be a solution … but would also clutter everything and make lists longer. I´d still prefer to be able to search for items just in top levels.

Issue still persists.

Now when I want to select all the banknotes in my collection that are not put in a subcategory, I just get shown ALL my banknotes … whilde I just want to know what 2 notes are missing a specific subcategory.

Here's the link if you want to try to search you own collection  … it expands the search to ALL banknotes/tokens/…

banknotes : https://en.numista.com/vous/vos_pieces.php?type=148&type=148

tokens: https://en.numista.com/vous/vos_pieces.php?type=150&type=150

I think the answer is there should be no objects in the top categories. But obviously there are and they need to be moved to a sub category.  However, when creating a new object page it's possible to select the top categories so that has to be fixed.

Another perfect example of the problem this causes:  https://en.numista.com/forum/topic153392.html

bjherbison

I can find that medal in a search.

 

But it doesn't seem in appropriate to allow something to be in the top category if the sub-categories are intended to cover all the cases. If items exist that don't fit the category scheme my preference would be an “Other” category ("Other Coin type", “Other Medal type”, “Other Token type”, …) and keep the top level empty.

Totally agree - That is the way I have placed them in my own personal spreadsheet. If they don't fit into a particular sub category put them in one called "Others".

Regards Mike

Issue still persists.

Same as this one:  https://en.numista.com/forum/topic155829.html

And here is the number of affected items for this: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic167466.html#p1285252

Although it seems to caused by cataloguing mistakes (not selecting correct type when submitting a new item), this is also an issue for categories with a single one subcategory. E.g. souvenir banknotes have one category named zero-euro banknotes, but one can not search for other souvenirs banknotes that aren't zero-euro. It's the case for many medals and paper exonumia categories.

mrcsp

this is also an issue for categories with a single one subcategory. E.g. souvenir banknotes have one category named zero-euro banknotes, but one can not search for other souvenirs banknotes that aren't zero-euro. It's the case for many medals and paper exonumia categories.

+1

Discovered this same issue myself today.

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic170964.html#p1305477

same problem here 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic173191.html#p1317654

cippirimerlo

same problem here 

 

https://en.numista.com/forum/topic173191.html#p1317654

There are 56 coins in Italian States in the top level Coins object type. You can't find them without finding all Italian States 3814 coins.

@rsirian1 I think 56 coins in Italian States are great in the top level Coins object type, I won't be scrolling through 3814 coins…