oban
Iscritto: 8 Gen 2020
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Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 15:19
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Hello,
I am struggling to identify this coin, had a look through Numista database, it doesn't appear to be there.
I think the year is 1277, and denomination might be 5 - but really I can't find anything similar online.
diameter 35mm. weight 16 grams, reeded edge
Thank you for your help in advance.
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rsirian1
Iscritto: 20 Nov 2020
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Denomination is 500. It looks to be a replica or counterfeit of this coin (year 8 ) based on the weight.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34993.html
Seeker55
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Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 15:42
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I agree with rsirian1. Also the original is in gold, this one in bronze.
oban
Iscritto: 8 Gen 2020
Pubblicazioni: 13
Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 15:45
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Great, thank you - I was thinking it was indeed a number 500, although it couldn't have been 500 para.
The coin is definitely old, probably of that period, with appropriate wear / tear, and the quality of the strike is pretty much mint - someone had access to very good equipment to produce this coin.
How did they expect to get away with passing a copper coin for a gold one, that is the question.
Thank you for your help
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oban
Iscritto: 8 Gen 2020
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Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 17:31
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Unless it was a pre-production / trial strike, to test the equipment before starting to mint the gold coins?
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rsirian1
Iscritto: 20 Nov 2020
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I guess that's possible but why the 8th year rather than the 1st year?
I was thinking that if the alloy was a brass (like yellow brass), when new it might have passed as being gold. Just a thought....
oban
Iscritto: 8 Gen 2020
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Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 17:55
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found it!
https://www.ma-shops.com/sesambestcoins/item.php?id=48535
it is some sort of award / token from the original dies ...
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rsirian1
Iscritto: 20 Nov 2020
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Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 18:02
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So it seems it could have been made by the mint that made the gold coins as you suggested.
oban
Iscritto: 8 Gen 2020
Pubblicazioni: 13
Pubblicato: 24 Apr 2021, 22:05
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Seems to be so, now I will just need to find out what that award was for...
Thank you for your help, much appreciate it.
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