1812 3 Kreuzer. Grosher zugthu Hessen [Risolto]

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1.2 gr. 14mm ?

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Rich Dolce
Similar: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces78823.html [1833-1836]

Grand duchy of Hessen-Darmstadt (German states)

GROSHERZOGTHUM HESSEN

Though on yours the Kreuzer is on one line.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Could you provide clearer images? Are you sure the date is 1812?
Yes, likely 1842:

https://www.ma-shops.com/olding2/item.php?id=302725
Yes, that would be this:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces59713.html
KM 305, AKS 112 (as in the MA Shops, and my notes connect 112 with 305)
I will try to get a better picture
of the date.

Thanks

Rich Dolce
The coin is Maximillion 1 Joseph
King of Bavarian 3 Kreuzer 1812.
Is my Guess.
No. The obverse legend clearly says this is a coin of the Grand Duchy of Hessen (GROS HERZOGTHUM HESSEN). So this is the only possible issuing authority, meaning you can constrain your search to coins from this place.
All the details are 100% consistent with the type linked by @bjherbison, which was minted 1838-1842.

You will be able to find many other 1812 3 kreuzer coins from German States (Nassau, Baden, etc.) but none of these can possibly be correct.

For reference, the Bavaria 1812 3 kreuzer coin looks like this: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces26773.html
I can see your point.
But it says 1812.
3 people including myself can see the date in person and conclude date is 1812. Is it a mistake in date.

Thanks for help
Rich Dolce
Yes, it is likely uneven wear or a small die defect. Which makes it an interesting curiosity of a coin that looks like it has an impossible date.
Cita: "Rdolce"​I can see your point.
​But it says 1812.
​3 people including myself can see the date in person and conclude date is 1812. Is it a mistake in date.

​Thanks for help
​Rich Dolce
​Your last two pictures are still blurry, but the digit looks like a "4" to me. The slant at the top seems too long to be a "1" and I see a shadow of the cross-bar on the right.
Yes '42, also please remove the Vaseline from your lens (8

here is updated coin photo.
It could be a 4 or a mistake in date number. Hard to believe that only 1 number is worn but all others are ok.

I just do not know.
I will take it to coin dealer.
To see it live for viewpoint.

Best Regards

Rich Dolce
It has to be 1842 from that last picture - there is too much space on the
right of the 8 as the gap 1 8 on the left would be repeated on the right 1 8 1 but it
is not - more like 1.8..1 so there is room for the left-hand part of the number
so is 4 there. Hope to have explained properly. :)

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
What a horror, images are everything, but only sharp, clear, focused etc:O
Globetrotter
Coin varieties in French:
https://monnaiesetvarietes.numista.com
Yes. From that last image I made these ...

1. Green is visible parts - so does not look like the 1 before the 8
and the white lines are equal spacing - showing the longer space after 8 number.
2. Cropping the picture to make all spaces the same to show what 1812 would be.
So cannot be 1812 date.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
The NGC page also has a lower quality picture but does have 1842 on it, for spacing comparison.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/german-states-hesse-darmstadt-3-kreuzer-km-305-1838-1842-cuid-1138095-duid-1337419
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
If you look close enough you can see the slant bar and the crosslet of the 4:

Agreed. I made this ...

where the space for a wide 4 is the same, as the 2 at the end does not move.
It would move to the left if there were a narrower 1 there instead of 4 number.

Apart from all that, it was mentioned earlier that 1812 coins did not have that
shield and crown design on the other side. So 1842 it is. :)
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Yes it was an 1842 coin that only the 4 was significantly worn or was intended to be a 1842 coin but due to die error was not completely. Pressed. I tend to believe the latter .

Thanks for all the help

Rich Dolce
Found coin KM 305
Hessen Darmstadt

Thanks. Again all

Rich Dolce
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