This documentation is in place, but sorry, I cannot see the differences at all
1977 varieties:
Type A: Without ribs on lower leaves
Type B: With ribs on lower leaves
Type A Type B
Here are the corresponding macros
I suggest to take that documentation out, but we have the problem of the users having assigned their coins to one or the other line!
Edited the 19th of July, 2021
Here is a NEW documentation, but not about ribs, since simple ususre of the coin might obliterate the ribs.
It's about the stalks carrying acorns, as shown here
I'll let the Yugoslavia referee decide the amount of year lines, and the I can make the CR with my documented variant in accordance to his wishes and how to split the coins on the two varieties.
In my opinion the photos have been reversed for the Type A and Type B. In your first set of photos (I could not get the macro to open), I see one "rib" or vein on each lower leaf in the photo on the left, but I see none in the photo on the right. It is easiest to see on the leaf at 7:00 (the rib or vein is along the axis of the leaf toward the tip) and the leaf at 4:00 (the rib or vein is at an angle to the axis of the leaf). For the leaf at 4:30 or 5:00 in the photo on right, it is the edge of the lower leaf (not a rib) which is very prominent in the photo.
Indeed, the position of the stalks for the "berries" (they would be "acorns" for oak leaves) are more easy to see the differences. But this is a different feature than the "ribs."
Cita: "tdziemia"In my opinion the photos have been reversed for the Type A and Type B. In your first set of photos (I could not get the macro to open), I see one "rib" or vein on each lower leaf in the photo on the left, but I see none in the photo on the right. It is easiest to see on the leaf at 7:00 (the rib or vein is along the axis of the leaf toward the tip) and the leaf at 4:00 (the rib or vein is at an angle to the axis of the leaf)
Indeed, the position of the stalks for the "berries" (they would be acorns for the oak leaves) are more easy to see the differences.
As I said, the stalks are the important differences, but the documentation which was on the page were of ONLY the ribs and both varieties were of the stalks behind the leaves. I'm not trying to document the ribs, since I honestly could NOT see those differences!
My only comment is that for an English speaker, the description of the "berries" difference would be clearest like this: "acorn stalks start behind leaves" and "acorn stalks between leaves." (The leaves in question on this side of the coin appear to be oak. Oak trees have nuts called acorns in English; they do not have berries)
The ribs on the leaves are a different feature. That difference could potentially result from die wear (whether or not you can see it )
Seems someone is looking for a way to make a really low value coin a bit more exciting.
On the left side the ribs are clearly visible (left picture) or not (right picture):
Is the difference a variety or is it because of wear? The condition of both coins seems very comparable, so the difference might not be due to wear but really is a variety.
Cita: "Essor Prof"On the left side the ribs are clearly visible (left picture) or not (right picture):
Is the difference a variety or is it because of wear? The condition of both coins seems very comparable, so the difference might not be due to wear but really is a variety.
Are those dependent on the acorn stalks placements or not?
Cita: "Sjoelund"Are those dependent on the acorn stalks placements or not?
I have no idea, my European coins are not added to Numista yet so difficult to check for the moment. Just one coin is not enough to see if there is a correlation between these two possible varieties.
By the way, nice find, that acorn stalks placement, certainly on the right side (on the left it's not very distinct).
Cita: "Sjoelund"Are those dependent on the acorn stalks placements or not?
I have no idea, my European coins are not added to Numista yet so difficult to check for the moment. Just one coin is not enough to see if there is a correlation between these two possible varieties.
By the way, nice find, that acorn stalks placement, certainly on the right side (on the left it's not very distinct).
I want to too, take me to the game guys
As the first one-I just have to. ( Mom said - hello to every man, you never know who Dad is )
Greetings and nice greetings.
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they are mine but I don't see the difference there so I probably have the same -or I don't really know what to look for.
But I'm happy to help.
Ivan
On MIMAEL's #3 I do not see ribs on the lower leaves on right, but maybe is just th lighting.
I looked at a lot of these over on eBay (something like 40 for sale in various grades; ). maybe half are in high enough grade or the photo is of sufficient quality). It seems like ribs + acorn stalk behind leaves is overwhelmingly the most common variety.
Here is a listing of 3 in same photo, in which maybe the one to the left has no ribs, but the others do? https://www.ebay.com/itm/373578756967?hash=item56fb077367:g:zuIAAOSw1D9gnXYH
Cita: "tdziemia"On MIMAEL's #3 I do not see ribs on the lower leaves on right, but maybe is just th lighting.
Greetings to all and wishes for health and well-being.
I thought so too, and I still see it that way, so thank you for your observation. I didn't want to argue and argue, and I put the coins back in my place for a pile of history of that strange disparate conglomerate of the Balkan nations who really don't like each other.
Thank you ,,tdziemia,,
and I enclose the original photo of the whole
Daryl- greetings and your coin is the prettiest.
this is from the ribs on the leaf.
and there is no rib here -on the lower right leaf ??
Hi Ivan Hope all is well with you and family. Yes it is in very nice condition.
I did have a note to look at letter spaceing in 1980 and 1981 coins. The early ones have the letters HAP all touching each other. Were the 1981 there is a space between the AP in HAP.
1977 1981
Needed to look and see if 1981 or 1980 had both . But still have to find all of my coins, boxed them all up. Iam slowly getting back. It will take some time yet.
Thank you daryl
Cita: "ALLRED1950" Hi Ivan Hope all is well with you and family. Yes it is in very nice cond
Hi and thank you Daryl I (rehabilitate and still give my medals to the nurses doctors even today after 2 vaccinations- it's the person's faith, but I don't have to tell you the secret), I wish you good health and if I can help with your research----,,It is best to be rich and healthy,,-unfortunately, few succeed and others have to fight.
I took a picture of my remaining coins outside of 1977 , if it helps you in your research ,,I also have the feeling that the letters are jumping there,,
Thank you Ivan . Iam going to have to find what box they are in . And dig out.
I did get a great coin . Last month. From my friend at the gas station.
One of the cashers took it as a US dollar coin. It is a large US 1 cent 1837. He let me have it for 1 dollar. After I told him it value was 20 to 30 dollars. So now the oldest coin I got from circulation is 1837. I hope you are having good luck in looking for coins. Give your grand kids a big hug , And take care my friend daryl
It is, what it is, or is it.
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