Correct the Venezuelan Exchange Rate [Risolto]

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The 1 Million Bolivars Exchange Rate shows Wrong Exchange Rate
Please Correct it
Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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What do you think it should be?

The rate is updated maybe once a day, the actual rate changes in seconds. With the speed of Venezuelan inflation differences wont be preventable.
So This Means Everyone in Venezuela who has 200 Thousands, 500 Thousands and 1 Million Bolivars has 48074.12, 120185.30 240370.60 Respectively in USD
No, Because the New Exchange Rate is Made to Comply with The New Bank Notes
Not with Old Bank Notes
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Wrong info: The number on the coin page is wrong, but I think it's a bigger problem than Numista. I've found a number of conversion/exchange websites with wildly incorrect numbers for the value of a single VES, but accurate numbers for higher denominations. I think they're having trouble displaying the extremely small numbers involved and are defaulting to a $0.00 format and dropping the string of zeroes after the decimal point. If Numista displays the rate using one of these sources, it's going to glitch in the same way.

One million VES is only ~$0.23.


Edit: Wait! There may have been a redenomination: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-01/venezuela-s-battered-bolivar-gets-makeover-with-six-fewer-zeroes

If that has taken effect, the rate should be correct but the real value of the notes has been reduced.
Cita: "seltsamesammler"Wrong info: The number on the coin page is wrong, but I think it's a bigger problem than Numista. I've found a number of conversion/exchange websites with wildly incorrect numbers for the value of a single VES, but accurate numbers for higher denominations. I think they're having trouble displaying the extremely small numbers involved and are defaulting to a $0.00 format and dropping the string of zeroes after the decimal point. If Numista displays the rate using one of these sources, it's going to glitch in the same way.

​One million VES is only ~$0.23.


Edit: Wait! There may have been a redenomination: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-01/venezuela-s-battered-bolivar-gets-makeover-with-six-fewer-zeroes

​If that has taken effect, the rate should be correct but the real value of the notes has been reduced.
​I think you're right. Something is screwed up.
The 1 October 2021 change was the introduction of the bolívar digital (Bs.D VED) 1,000,000 VES = 1 VED. Current rate is ~ $1=4.18VED Numista is using $1~4.18VES
Cita: "Amraan Amjad"​So This Means Everyone in Venezuela who has 200 Thousands, 500 Thousands and 1 Million Bolivars has 48074.12, 120185.30 240370.60 Respectively in USD
​No, Because the New Exchange Rate is Made to Comply with The New Bank Notes
​Not with Old Bank Notes
​You're correct. Good catch.
Cita: "rsirian1"
Cita: "Amraan Amjad"​So This Means Everyone in Venezuela who has 200 Thousands, 500 Thousands and 1 Million Bolivars has 48074.12, 120185.30 240370.60 Respectively in USD
​​No, Because the New Exchange Rate is Made to Comply with The New Bank Notes
​​Not with Old Bank Notes
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​​You're correct. Good catch.
​Thank you
Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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Just waiting for the new coin and notes to be added to the catalogue.
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Cita: "Worldwide collection"​Just waiting for the new coin and notes to be added to the catalogue.
​Same Here
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Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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Still not Corrected
Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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It might help if the new currency was added. We're still showing
Bolívar (1879-2007)
Bolívar Fuerte (2008-2018)
Bolivar Soberano (2018-date)
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
The new currency has been added: Bolivar Digital (2021 - date).

Correct rate should be approximately:
  • VED 1 = VES 1,000,000 = USD 0.234
  • or USD 1 = VED 4.27 = VES 4,273,504


Rates are updated automatically overnight and taken from external platform.
But many platforms either mixed old labelling VES with new rate of 1 to 4.27, or purely did not update their database (at least yet)...meaning for many/most platforms USD 1 = VES 4.27.

We may need to wait a little before it's on the right track..
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It might have helped if the end date for the previous currency was added. I've requested the addition of the new 5 and 10 bolívares notes. Perhaps that will move things along.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Still not Corrected
Numista Referee for Coins of Kingdom of Bahrain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Republic of Tunisia & Kingdom of Morocco
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Cita: "Amraan Amjad"​Still not Corrected
​News about the 6 zeros being removed and the introduction of the new currency has gone quite for the time being. Maybe it happened but is not reported or pictures of the new currency hasn't started circulating yet or it was a failure and it didn’t happened. We just need to wait and see.
Hi to whoever is reading this. Did you know that TYPEWRITER (on a QWERTY keyboard) is the longest word you can type using only the letters on one row of the keyboard.
Cita: "ceh2019"​It might have helped if the end date for the previous currency was added.
​Not really as there is no end date yet to the VES, both currencies are circulating at the same time and both are legal tender...at least for now.

The Bolivar Digital is technically not a new currency nor does it replace the Soberano; it is still the same Bolivar system except there is 6 zeros less printed on the banknote. Rather a cosmetic update.

Then you're right, we just need to wait and see.
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I think it would be set out like the Iranian Rial and Toman in the banknotes section.
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Hello,

I just made a fix for that.
See: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note278130.html

The best explanation I found is in the ISO 4217 amendment:
CitaThe Bolívar Soberano (VES) is redenominated by removing six zeros from the denominations. A new currency code VED/926 representing the new valuation (1,000,000 times old VES/928) is introduced on 1 October 2021 for any internal needs during the redenomination process, but is not replacing VES as the official currency code. The Central Bank of Venezuela will not adopt the new codes in the local system, VES/928 remains in use.
The actual currency code VES/928 remains the valid code after 1 October 2021 to use in any future transactions to indicate the redenominated Bolívar Soberano.
Source: https://www.six-group.com/dam/download/financial-information/data-center/iso-currrency/amendments/dl_currency_iso_amendment_170.pdf

So basically Venezuela changed the value of their currency but they keep the same currency code VES.

This leads to a weird situation when looking at exchange rate, where you need to differentiate between the old VES and the new VES.

Source: XE.com
Stato cambiato a implementato (Xavier, 31 Ott 2021, 21:28)
Cita: "Xavier"​Hello,

​I just made a fix for that.
​See: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note278130.html

​The best explanation I found is in the ISO 4217 amendment:

Cita​The Bolívar Soberano (VES) is redenominated by removing six zeros from the denominations. A new currency code VED/926 representing the new valuation (1,000,000 times old VES/928) is introduced on 1 October 2021 for any internal needs during the redenomination process, but is not replacing VES as the official currency code. The Central Bank of Venezuela will not adopt the new codes in the local system, VES/928 remains in use.
​The actual currency code VES/928 remains the valid code after 1 October 2021 to use in any future transactions to indicate the redenominated Bolívar Soberano.
​Source: https://www.six-group.com/dam/download/financial-information/data-center/iso-currrency/amendments/dl_currency_iso_amendment_170.pdf

​So basically Venezuela changed the value of their currency but they keep the same currency code VES.

​This leads to a weird situation when looking at exchange rate, where you need to differentiate between the old VES and the new VES.

​Source: XE.com
​Thanks a Lot Xavier
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We're still waiting for the two notes I submitted to be approved. Then things will become a little clearer to the casual observer.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Cita: "ceh2019"​We're still waiting for the two notes I submitted to be approved. Then things will become a little clearer to the casual observer.
​Just added French translations and published. :wiz:
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