Inconsistency between coin pages

Hi,

I realise that if this were to be implemented, it would be very time consuming and tedious, but can we get the coin pages to reflect some consistency re: inputting varients and such things?

For example, one coin page may list two seperate entries for a coin with 'coin alignment' and 'medal alignment' but both under the same KM#, while another coin page will list two seperate entries for coin vs medal alignment but then give a KM#.1 and KM#.2 at the end of the input line. But then other coins that havea .1 or .2 KM# are their own coins and have their own pages. And then others just say 'see comments'.

Or some pages may list a 20 cent piece (for example) with 'Open 2' and 'Closed 2' varieties, or 'With Grapes' vs 'No Grapes' each as different entries, and then for a 50 cent piece for the same country it will be one single entry that says simply 'see comments' which then show 4 different varieties, and now I have multiple entries for the same coin, but each with a different comment I have written in to differentiate them.

If each variant were it's own entry in the coin page, I think it would be easier to catalogue our collections.

In the beginning, I think numista was created for
1. type collectors (they care not for years and variants)....
2. then came the type / year collectors (they care not for mint marks and variants)....
3. then came the type / year / mint mark collectors (they care not for variants) ....
4. now we even have collectors of type / year / mint mark / variants

The existing Numista is not taking all of this into account, some of it yes, but not for all countries and not for all denominations. You'll find original km#, which are grouped into imaginary numista km#, which is quite disturbing. You also have "faults" taken over directly from the SCWC catalogs, just look at the treatment of mints for Germany (they are all in the same km#, whereas for France, each mint has its own km#.

The problems really start to show, when you look at the swap lists. The type 4 collectors will enter all the details, while the type 1 collectors are even having problems to give the right date. It's all a matter of interest in your own way of collecting.

The more you split up the year lines for variants, the more problems a type 4 collector will have to swap with the types of collectors, and you can can NOT force people to spend hours just adding a double to their list with all the details to fit the detailed year lines, since the interest and utility of doing it is not evident for them, so numista is a compromise. Swapping is a chancy business, since you hardly EVER know, if your partner has used all his ressiurces to classify his double coins.

I have learned to live with that, I'm a type 4 collector, and my doubles list grow and grow, because of the "wrongly" filed coins by my swap partners, and you cannot really complain about it. That's just how it is. I still enjoy swapping and I'm still hopefull to receive the assigned coins, but as said it's rare.

Of course you can always insist to swap only with your own group of swappers, but you'll find out that they are only consistent for certain countries, so swapping is always a game.

If the option were there from the beginning, it might encourage 'type 1' people to enter the coin 'correctly' at the start, and then they wouldn't have to go through their entire collection to enter doubles now.

Or perhaps we can have an option to identify as Type 1, Type 2, etc in our swap pages or on our profiles? Then we would know the person we're swapping with has the coin we want, or would at least accept? Then, during my swap, I can choose to swap only with the people that have info I need entered into the database.

My suggestion was for ease of entry of coins from my collection, but a side effect is that I can provide correct info to someone that may want to swap with me. I mean, swapping shouldn't be a game. I'm spending money to mail the coins, and also losing the coins then, if the swap isn't what I agreed to, or if the coins aren't the ones I want. It shouldn't be a gamble just because some users aren't as exacting as others.

I agree, but I have given up to try to convince people to collect and register their coins according to my type 4 interests! So ist das Leben. I don't have my doubles in Numista, but still in Excel sheet, since I still swap with a lot people not being in numista and I have more info in my sheet, than I can have in numista....

I'll send you a PM
Ole

Hello,

A better way to store varieties information is already discussed at https://en.numista.com/forum/topic52918.html

and the result?