Germany (Federal Republic) replacement series

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As I am already in the process of making the life of the referee for Germany a little busier and complicated, I would like - before throwing more at him - to ask more widely how to deal with the two replacement series and the treasury notes that were printed between 1963 and 1974 but never issued. 

 

The replacement note series can be found here:

https://www.bundesbank.de/de/bundesbank/kunst-und-numismatik/muenz-und-geldscheinsammlung/bildarchiv/banknoten-der-ersatzserie-bbk-ii-fuer-westdeutschland-607232

https://www.bundesbank.de/de/bundesbank/kunst-und-numismatik/muenz-und-geldscheinsammlung/bildarchiv/banknoten-der-ersatzserie-bbk-ii-fuer-westberlin-607234 

For the treasury notes two entries are already on Numista, and I've requested the rest:

N#206873

N#240785

 

The German wikipedia has a nice summary: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bargeld_der_Deutschen_Mark#Ersatzserie_(BBk_II)_und_Bundeskassenscheine

 

key bits translated:

 

In the event of a major disruption to the circulation of money, which would have required an exchange of banknotes, the Bundesbank decided on January 20, 1959 to produce printing plates for reserve bank notes.

 

The printing of the banknotes began in 1963 and lasted until 1974, since the replacement of the amount of the banknotes actually had to be adjusted. The notes for 20 and 100 marks were printed by the Federal Printing in Berlin, the notes 10 and 50 marks from the private banknote printing Giesecke & Devrient: almost 785 million banknotes of a total of around 29 billion marks (approx. 25 billion marks for West Germany and approx. 4 billion marks for West Berlin) were made in several tranches and half of them were stored in the strictly secret Bundesbank bunker Cochem from 1964 to 1988. The rest was stored in the Bundesbank vault in Frankfurt. 

 

The Bundesbank and the Ministry of Finance decided in 1988 to destroy the replacement money, since the security features were no longer sufficient to effectively prevent counterfeits. So there was no longer any benefits, and cash was no longer so urgently necessary due to electronic payment transactions. 

However, some of the banknotes were stolen from the commissioned private disposal companies, so that some notes are still in possession of collectors.

However, the Bundesbank intervenes in public auctions by confiscating replacement notes and the federal treasury certificates as stolen goods. 

 

So my basic question: enter them under banknotes or not?

53th0s

So my basic question: enter them under banknotes or not?

I would say not.
They would fall into the same category as forgeries – being stolen, possession is illegal – considering that the government seizes them on sight. 


There might be a case for listing them in exonumia.

However, there might be legal issues with hosting images of the stolen notes.

Hibernia

However, there might be legal issues with hosting images of the stolen notes.

Interesting point. The Bundesbank itself has high resolution pictures online and Wikipedia hosts them as being in the public domain. Bank Note Museum and others have them online, too.

Numista also hosts pictures of coin forgeries for instance. 

53th0s

Hibernia

However, there might be legal issues with hosting images of the stolen notes.

Interesting point. The Bundesbank itself has high resolution pictures online and Wikipedia hosts them as being in the public domain.

That is handy. No problem with the images then :)

So I was able to find auctions for all the treasury notes, but already thought I'd give up on the replacement series. Lo and behold:

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=7225&lot=197

My vote goes to Exonumia for these.

Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.

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