Does anyone have a copy of Dalton & Hamer Provincial Token Coinage of the 18thc.

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I used to have a downloaded copy from weebly.com but it's no longer available. I have a query around this token N#80478. 

We've had a modification request to add a 1797 year line but from what I remember, a new year type is often a new catalogue reference. Would someone please review and advise - many thanks.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

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Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

I've got the book, but am not completely sure how to use it (my wife collected Conders for a while).

 

When I look up Cambridgeshire #15 it says “R: A stork.  See Hampshire”

 

That redirects to Hampshire #47-50 (Petersfield) where the stork reverse is combined with a different obverse.  The two pictures of the stork reverse only show the date 1793, and there is nothing in the text for either Cambridgeshire 15 or Hampshire 47-50 saying a 1797 exists.

 

Different type, Cambridgeshire #18 wih beehive obverse but Britannia reverse exists for 1797.  

 

But wait and see what you get from someone who knows their way around the catalog better.   

 

Edit: Let me know if sending photos of the relevant pages would help.  I'm going to be out all day, but can send this evening.

tdziemia

I've got the book, but am not completely sure how to use it (my wife collected Conders for a while).

 

When I look up Cambridgeshire #15 it says “R: A stork.  See Hampshire”

 

That redirects to Hampshire #47-50 (Petersfield) where the stork reverse is combined with a different obverse.  The two pictures of the stork reverse only show the date 1793, and there is nothing in the text for either Cambridgeshire 15 or Hampshire 47-50 saying a 1797 exists.

 

Different type, Cambridgeshire #18 wih beehive obverse but Britannia reverse exists for 1797.  

 

But wait and see what you get from someone who knows their way around the catalog better.   

 

Edit: Let me know if sending photos of the relevant pages would help.  I'm going to be out all day, but can send this evening.

Thanks for your time and help. It would be great if you were able to send photos of the relevant pages.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

Hopefully these are clear enough …

 

D&H p.6, Cambridgeshire.  Beehive obverse, stork reverse is #15 (the type in our catalog) only if there is a mistake in the text that says “Nos. 13-17b  O:  As rev of No. 12”.  (This Baldwin's listing confirms as #15:  https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3356526 ).  Text on #15 redirects to Hampshire for image of the stork side.  Also note #18 at bottom which has Beehive obverse, but Britannia reverse, and is dated 1797. 

 

D&H p. 45, Hampshire (Petersfield).  Man on horse (I also see this referred to as a dragoon) obverse, stork reverse 1793 is #47-50.  No mention of a 1797 .  Both of the stork reverses in the  images are dated 1793.

 

The D&H index only refers “Stork” to p. 45 (Hampshire).

 

One guess is that the submitter has a worn coin and is mistaking the flat top of a 3 (with the lower part worn away) for a 7.

I've seen this on some Dutch Republic coins which used a 2 with a nearly closed upper loop, and it is easy to mistake worn examples for this digit being a 9 .

 

Could request that a photo be submitted?

Thanks very much for your help.

Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.

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