How do I actually pull this off?

So I want to do a lot more swaps on Numista to help grow my collection. But, I AM NOT HERE TO ADVERTISE FOR SWAPPING AT ALL. I actually need to figure out a way to ship my coins to the other person and also receive them in India. I never get a chance to go out to the post office as 3km is not very near by bicycle. Also, will there be Police there? Because, I don't want to be caught by them. I have parents who always stay at home so how do i receive the package? And due to school pressure, I can only get Sundays off. There is a post box extremely near to me and i can get there. Will they ship items internationally though? And even if I'm only doing swaps within India, how do I receive it? If my collection coins are not valuable enough to swap, how do I send the money? Do I just ship it to them by cash? Also, I may need a swap partner in India to keep thins consistent.

I would really appreciate your help in this. Thank you in advance.

P.S Please don't trash talk my collection. I'll buy the rare coins with money if it isn't enough.

Also, how do I receive the other packages if I don't want to get caught by my parents?

Why are you hiding the fact that you want to swap coins from your parents? 
 

anyways, if you want to swap with someone in India, or abroad, you need to find someone who may be looking for coins in your swap list and in turn you see something interesting in theirs. You then message them asking if they are interested after which you can open a swap and proceed from there. 
there are several threads about swapping etiquette and how to pack coins. However I think from India, you’d have to ship by registered tracking and probably demand the same from your swap partners which can be more expensive than the coins you want to swap for.

technically one cannot send coins/cash in the post, but the worst that can happen is the package is confiscated and you lose your coins/money; else don’t worry, you wont go to jail. 
if you want to buy coins instead, which I personally find easier these days, then you will need an electronic way of sending the money. In India, UPI such as google pay or phone Pe is easy. For international transactions it’s usually PayPal or bank transfer. 

ashlobo

Why are you hiding the fact that you want to swap coins from your parents? 
 

anyways, if you want to swap with someone in India, or abroad, you need to find someone who may be looking for coins in your swap list and in turn you see something interesting in theirs. You then message them asking if they are interested after which you can open a swap and proceed from there. 
there are several threads about swapping etiquette and how to pack coins. However I think from India, you’d have to ship by registered tracking and probably demand the same from your swap partners which can be more expensive than the coins you want to swap for.

technically one cannot send coins/cash in the post, but the worst that can happen is the package is confiscated and you lose your coins/money; else don’t worry, you wont go to jail. 
if you want to buy coins instead, which I personally find easier these days, then you will need an electronic way of sending the money. In India, UPI such as google pay or phone Pe is easy. For international transactions it’s usually PayPal or bank transfer. 

 

Because, I'm 13.5 and they don't want me to get distracted by “dumb hobbies”. I've tried my best to explain to them that collecting old coins is great and they disagree. So, there is ZERO chance that they accept for swapping and further more, pay shipping fees. I know how to package coins, mail etc but I don't know how to hide from my parents. UPI isn't an option as I don't have an account and I only have a debit card with 416.90 rupees balance and if I do any transaction, the message goes straight to them. Could I send them by post box though? Perhaps, I just put 2 pieces of cardboard and in between them and I somehow safely put the coins and package them. Does this work? For buying them, I'll mail the money as well, I guess. What do you think?

I see, that is indeed unfortunate. normally parents would be happy their young teenagers are getting distracted with a productive hobby than falling with the wrong crowd and potentially doing drugs, alcohol or worse. That said, I would not try to hide it from your parents, it’s not worth it. Just try to keep convincing them until they relent or wait until you begin to earn your own money and don’t need their permission. I realise that is some years away, but if you’re still interested at that point, then all the better. 
In the meanwhile, I think at most you should meet fellow coin collectors locally and maybe visit coin shops or numismatic events. Swapping by post or sending money the way you suggest is not at all feasible imho.

All said and done, you don’t need to actually collect coins to get into the numismatic hobby. Join online discussions and research and make yourself an expert in a certain area of coin collecting or coinage era which fascinates you. That is still plenty good to keep you busy until you can buy your first coins. And who knows, maybe your parents will change their mind when they see how much Knowledge you have gained

ashlobo

I see, that is indeed unfortunate. normally parents would be happy their young teenagers are getting distracted with a productive hobby than falling with the wrong crowd and potentially doing drugs, alcohol or worse. That said, I would not try to hide it from your parents, it’s not worth it. Just try to keep convincing them until they relent or wait until you begin to earn your own money and don’t need their permission. I realise that is some years away, but if you’re still interested at that point, then all the better. 
In the meanwhile, I think at most you should meet fellow coin collectors locally and maybe visit coin shops or numismatic events. Swapping by post or sending money the way you suggest is not at all feasible imho.

 

All said and done, you don’t need to actually collect coins to get into the numismatic hobby. Join online discussions and research and make yourself an expert in a certain area of coin collecting or coinage era which fascinates you. That is still plenty good to keep you busy until you can buy your first coins. And who knows, maybe your parents will change their mind when they see how much Knowledge you have gained

Thanks for the advice, actually.

Coin collectors? My friends are barely better than me. Can't swap with them.

Numismatic events? Sure, I can do that I guess. 

Coin shops? I found one 361km away. Obviously can't go. 

Also, Indian parents are quite a bit different than European or American. Some locals even say that my parents are quite kind and I am slightly spoiled ALTHOUGH IT IS NOT AT ALL TRUE. Still, I guess I should be gaining more knowledge than coins for now… Parents still will never change though. Anyway, thanks a ton! It helped.

P.S What's actually worse than alcohol(at this age) and drugs?

Well, i grew up in Bombay and my parents are very much Indian. My dad was especially very encouraging of my coin collecting since I was 7yrs old. And I know of other fellow Indian collectors. 

what’s worse than drugs and alcohol? well you’re 13.5yrs, so I shouldn’t say ;) 

@ashlobo offers great advice.  Your parents likely have “priorities” set out for you which don't include saving coins (that they may view as simply money & required for much needed essentials).  But their priorities could change. They may also feel you'll grow out of this phase (the coin hobby).  Parents often think that certain hobbies are just “phases” we usually grow out of. Just give them time & they may see how it actually matters to you. 

Let me tell you my story:

I grew up in Canada & inherited my brother's paper route.  Over the 4-5 years he delivered the local newspaper to homes, he got the odd silver coins & put them into his collection.  Our grandfather saw his hobby in a positive light & gave him some of his old $1.00 & silver 50 cent pieces. By the time my brother got his first part time job (& I took over his paper route) he had some great sets. These were old silver dollars with kings & queens I had never seen before.  I wanted to collect silver like him but my parents did not encourage me.  I suspect they figured that my brother was the serious coin kid & it was just a passing phase for me.  I only got 1 or 2 silver dimes, a few old nickels and pennies in the first year of my paper route & nothing from my grandpa or parents.  

It was discouraging but I secretly tucked the odd old paper $1.00 or $2.00 note away. I traded some of my silver for my brother's old Devil Face $1.00 bill.  I decided to change focus on paper currency.  There was no Charlton catalogues for paper money back then but I found a few US pamphlets on US coins & banknotes. I picked up numismatic coin/banknote magazines & old books at used book stores/flea markets or wherever I could find them.  I learned about grading & finally found some materials in the reference section of our library.  I was always broke so I would take a circulated $5.00 or an old 1954 Modified $2.00 & spend them on a VF 1937 $1.00 at the Sears coin shop (or private sellers who came to our malls).   When I got my first part time job I started to tuck away a little bit of my savings towards banknotes I thought were collectible. I often went to the library to learn exactly what was collectible (tough to source) & spent parts of my collection (which were common) for tougher varieties based on the catalogues in our local library.  I could not afford much but at least I was armed with knowledge. 

I'll never forget the look on my Mum's face when I first showed her a binder of Canadian banknotes (1937- 1979). I was about 18 & it took me about 4-5 years but I had signature sets of all the Modified 1954 series & likewise to our modern day notes. Most of those notes cost FV (Face Value) & were later sold on eBay for better notes. I also bought used catalogues when they first came out.

My suggestion to you is to find chores or odd jobs you can do for relatives or neighbours & earn some money while learning more about the hobby (as you've clearly done).    The more consistent you keep at it the more your parents will see its not a passing phase (or fad) & learn to support you.  Hope that helps you on your way!

All I'm saying is having a drug and/or alcohol problem might be cheaper than having a coin collection! 😉

I joke, of course. You're doing the right thing by staying away from them. 🙂

It is an unfortunate situation you're in, and I can very much sympathise. But to reiterate what the others have said, it's not really worth trying to hide it (too much). One of my old buddies tried hiding his completely, and it ended up causing a massive argument when they discovered his coin stash. (Fortunately, I was on hand to save his collection.)

I think your best cause of action is to be quite open and clearly dedicated to it. But basically try and keep yourself at the "swapping at face value" level for a few years. This way you're not losing money (as it's always worth face value), or at least not very much.

You can always collect rarer things later.

If you can, let your friends know you'll swap like-for-like (with maybe a small extra to make it worth their while. Depends on the quality of friends).

If you can, get yourself a part-time job or do odd jobs for neighbours, or extra chores about the house. Show your parents you're willing to put work into your collection. Let the people you're working for know you're a collector. They might just put things aside to pay you with.

Right now, your parents probably look at it as a silly hobby where you'll spend money and then get bored of it in a few months time. And they're trying to protect you from being wasteful, which is fair enough on their end.

You need to demonstrate that it's not “just a phase” but that'll come with time.

Until then, satisfy yourself with low value coins from circulation. Try and build a small network of people who can collect for you, and try to find a way to raise the additional funds to cover your hobby.

That's what I did at school age. Worked as a paper boy, used that money to trade coins off my friends (with a small premium based off the “rarity” of the coin).

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One other tip which might help convince your parents. Research anything that appears on a commemorative coin. Usually, nations put on things that they may be proud of.

A cursory glance at the India catalogue suggests you've got a good amount of 1/5/10 Rupee coins featuring statesmen, saints, and a few organisations too.

So if you get a coin with something like that on, learn why this person (or thing) was on a coin. You can then talk about that and it shows an interest in your country and it's heritage. Essentially, you're playing on the patriotism of your parents. They want you to be proud of India, you learnt unusual history of India through your coins.

Obviously, you'll know what's interesting to them better than I do.

For example, my mother loves architecture. About the same time, we released a bunch of coins with bridges on. So when we visited those bridges in passing on holiday, I could go “Did you know this bridge…”, and she'd ask why I knew that, “Why, this bridge was on our £1 coin last year”, and she'd go “huh, that's cool”.

We both appreciated the same thing, but through different routes. It might work, it might not.

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Anyway, I think I've typed enough. 😛

Whatever you do, don't let it interfere with your school work though. That should always come first. 🙂

Thanks for spending a lot of time! It really does help. I guess studies first, then coin collection. My mom trusted me and gave me all of her childhood coins(1990s, very few 1980s), even though she had little to offer. I found 1 old coin in my grandmother's house and I ABSOLUTELY RAIDED AND LOOTED AWAY OF WHAT WAS LEFT IN HER HOUSE. That's how I started and now, I have gotten myself to own a 8 annas - George V coin which not that many people own, even here. So, I'm going to have to wait for now…

Seems strange that parents would oppose coin collecting. Maybe they think coins should be spent or banked. Are you from a poorer background or low caste if Hindu, or is this just parents saying “Don't collect coins”.

My parents surprisingly were the same and felt that collecting coins was a waste of time, I mainly found that out as I was finding a wife or long term career quick enough. I collected everything, coins, stamps, Mad Magazines, comics, Garfield, music by artists they considered effeminate or gay (Prince, Michael Jackson). etc and they though all this reading and collecting made me soft and effeminate (My parents were real working class, rural Tarzan/Jane types). But by the time I was 16, I was earning my own money for spending and they had to back off.

They also realised I was not wasting it on bomby cars that fall apart (Every teenager had to get a car at 15 and it was always some old bomb 15 - 25 years old that was falling apart), girls, alcohol, smokes or drugs. My brother was guilty of all those things and still buys crappy cars on hire purchase now in his 50s.

They did become a bit more supportive as I got older and realised I had made some good purchases. They also got a real jog down memory lane when I showed them albums of the coins they had as children and noted how my examples were much nicer than the ones they handled. Both of them died years ago.

Today, I am probably richer than my parents ever were many times over and the coin collection could buy and sell themover.

Moral of the story “The Nerd in Disguise”, as long as you do your schoolwork, listen to your parents and avoid the temptations of girls, smokes, drugs etc in a few years, you will be fine. Save the occasional coin here and there and then when you hit say 18 or so and start making some real money, buy some coins.

For India, start on the easy stuff, like say post 1947 stuff and then when you have a few lakhs - do the harder stuff like silver rupees and coins of the Raj, Various states and caliphates and then the ancient stuff.

Moneytane

Seems strange that parents would oppose coin collecting. Maybe they think coins should be spent or banked. Are you from a poorer background or low caste if Hindu, or is this just parents saying “Don't collect coins”.

 

My parents surprisingly were the same and felt that collecting coins was a waste of time, I mainly found that out as I was finding a wife or long term career quick enough. I collected everything, coins, stamps, Mad Magazines, comics, Garfield, music by artists they considered effeminate or gay (Prince, Michael Jackson). etc and they though all this reading and collecting made me soft and effeminate (My parents were real working class, rural Tarzan/Jane types). But by the time I was 16, I was earning my own money for spending and they had to back off.

 

They also realised I was not wasting it on bomby cars that fall apart (Every teenager had to get a car at 15 and it was always some old bomb 15 - 25 years old that was falling apart), girls, alcohol, smokes or drugs. My brother was guilty of all those things and still buys crappy cars on hire purchase now in his 50s.

 

They did become a bit more supportive as I got older and realised I had made some good purchases. They also got a real jog down memory lane when I showed them albums of the coins they had as children and noted how my examples were much nicer than the ones they handled. Both of them died years ago.

 

Today, I am probably richer than my parents ever were many times over and the coin collection could buy and sell themover.

 

Moral of the story “The Nerd in Disguise”, as long as you do your schoolwork, listen to your parents and avoid the temptations of girls, smokes, drugs etc in a few years, you will be fine. Save the occasional coin here and there and then when you hit say 18 or so and start making some real money, buy some coins.

 

For India, start on the easy stuff, like say post 1947 stuff and then when you have a few lakhs - do the harder stuff like silver rupees and coins of the Raj, Various states and caliphates and then the ancient stuff.

They don't want me to go in TOO much on this “silly hobby” and they think that I'll get over it soon. They want me to focus a little more on studies, as 9th grade is around the corner and that I've to go from A to A+. I already have a very special 1919 George V 8 Annas coin which is like my only numismatic asset. We are of the upper middle class to lower high class range. They just don't want me to spend my “valuable time” on coin collecting and swapping is a long process, which they are not ready for at all. And they ESPECIALLY do not want me to even think of the wrong route. Whenever I mention the words “drugs”, “cigar”, “alcohol”, they go “ugh ok. now, SHUT UP”. I guess they just want me to not be brainrot and ESPECIALLY not full of negativity. Thanks for the advice though!

P.S I have a few stamps as well and I coincidentally collect comics and I like Garfield.

P.P.S JUST SAY WHAT'S GODDAMN WORSE THAN ALCOHOL(at this age) AND DRUGS I'M SO CURIOUS

Dear The Nerd In Disguise,

It's quite easy. Obey your parents. They want what's best for you.  Eventually you'll be rewarded. You'll see.

Yes, obey your parents and later you can get involved with girls and coins (in that order…:) when you have your own income.

Hi. 

       Parents must be obeyed. I don't know what the legal norm is in India when a minor accepts registered mail or a parcel. But I think it's not possible, and the minor's legal representative would have to accept the parcel. It probably doesn't matter when sending, there you pay financially and the post office doesn't care.

      Focus your attention on your studies in school as well as studying coins and collecting circulating coins of India. 

      The variety and variety of mints, regular commemorative circulation coins are very, very widespread in India. And for parents to also think of you when they come across a commemorative coin.

Of course they won't agree, you live in a society that knows that money is not for playing and throwing in boxes. It is used for food and satisfying needs such as clothing, transportation, food.

Well, take a look at the hobby of collecting around the world through different eyes:

* Footballer Ronaldo also didn't collect cars since childhood (expensive sports cars, Ferrari, Lamborghini, RR, and many others). His parents would also make excuses for him when he was a child.

* Actor and comedian Rowan Atkinson also has a car collection. But when he was young, his parents would have made excuses for him to throw 💰 money into scrap metal (Aston Martin, Audis, BMWs and variants of all of them)

So take it slow, without stress, focus on school so that you have something to buy with that money. Education and being able to do something comes first.

Ivan

It sounds like your parents do have your best interests at heart. I know it sometimes doesn't feel like that, especially when you're trying to get into a (relatively speaking) serious hobby. I say that in terms of balancing research on the coins, the value thereof, thinking of displays & storage etc.

The thing is your studies are important now, and they can decide your future. I messed up my sixth form (Optional education after leaving school at 16, but before university) because I put more work into interests outside of education.

In my case, girls and sport rather than bad things like drugs & drink, but I still did quite poorly academically. Dropped from a solid A/B student to barely passing (a “C” grade) at all.

And I had to really push myself in my 20s to catch up to where I should be in terms of career. Even now, I sometimes think I'm a bit behind. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy enough but sometimes wonder where I'd be if I'd just done the education side when I was supposed to.

So focus on your studies, and put your coin collection below that. You can still work on it when time allows, just see what you can get from your change, or exchanging with friends & family. I know it may not be the most interesting or valuable collection but it's still a good start. Accept that you might go weeks or even months without finding anything new. It's also okay to put a hobby down for a bit.

You can teach yourself how to research things. You can find out how you want to display them. You can still build a fair collection. If it is the earlier ~1900 coins that capture your interest, remember they've survived a hundred years already. They can survive a couple more until you're a little older. 🙂

To answer your question, there's plenty of worse things. You could end up part of a gang or get involved with drugs. You're not that far off potentially being a parent if you're reckless in that way. Over here in the UK, we have some drug rings who specifically target early teenagers to act as drug mules (i.e. moving drugs across locations within the country, or getting them into schools) because they know even if you're caught, you'd get a softer punishment than a full adult.

Some of the kids I went to school with had their first child whilst still in school themselves (Youngest couple were 15 (her), and 14 (him)). Think how much that would completely transform your life - and probably not for the best.

Don't let yourself wind up like that. If you're a good student, then you owe it to yourself to make the most of it & give yourself the best opportunities in this life.

Anyway, I'm rambling again. 😛

Long comment made short: Studies first. Coins second. For now, build a collection from whatever passes through your hands and you can afford to keep, and use it to understand coins & develop your coin identifying skills. Then when you're a bit bigger (and hopefully on the start of a successful career), you'll know what you want in your dream collection and have the skills to make it properly.

P.s. Another Garfield fan here. Although I'm more an older comics fan (my favourite era is the 1930s - 50s), I can certainly enjoy stuff from every era. Besides, we can all relate to hating Mondays. 😉

I grew up in Bombay and was already collecting by your age as well & it was before the proliferation of internet and computer 

Nevertheless, I used to scan all coins in pocket change ( with knowledge of parents) and it was possible to find many interesting commemorative coins in India. And collecting coins is rarely building real “assets “ of value ( especially in early days of the hobby)

The bigger satisfaction is getting the knowledge on various topics / countries and making some connections between interesting topics ( events, institutions, technology ….) and coins

May be when you show your knowledge by looking at the pocket change & explaining what is the event commemorated by the coin or the city where the coin is minted, it might change your parents view. Honestly at your age it is not a great idea to send  many coins by post, most likely the postage will be more expensive than the value of the coin and if you try to buy more valuable coin, it will deplete your parents bank balance 

Just to let you know how realistic this can be, when I started, I could get more than 50 - 75 different coins in the first year and some funny tales / surpises like German mark instead of 1 INR from bus conducto, PhilipInes 25 cents from kulfi vendor ( ice candy vendor), UAE coin from cobbler and funny enough a Goa ½ rupia when an old lady was arguing with a Pan Shop that it was a valid coin. These memories are equally cherishable as the coins 

so at that age there is ample opportunities to collect nice coins without the need to indulge in postal traffic or significant money dealings

Welcome to the hobby and use it as the connection to acquiring more knowledge and great memories 

all the best 

P.S. Statistically your parents are right 80% of my friends who also started collecting in school days did not continue fur more than 3 years and during that time nearly all of us did have completely wrong notion of what was a valuable coin

yvon

Yes, obey your parents and later you can get involved with girls and coins (in that order…:) when you have your own income.

Yeah, no. I'm single for life. Technically, that's asexual, right?

A Collector

It sounds like your parents do have your best interests at heart. I know it sometimes doesn't feel like that, especially when you're trying to get into a (relatively speaking) serious hobby. I say that in terms of balancing research on the coins, the value thereof, thinking of displays & storage etc.

 

The thing is your studies are important now, and they can decide your future. I messed up my sixth form (Optional education after leaving school at 16, but before university) because I put more work into interests outside of education.

In my case, girls and sport rather than bad things like drugs & drink, but I still did quite poorly academically. Dropped from a solid A/B student to barely passing (a “C” grade) at all.

And I had to really push myself in my 20s to catch up to where I should be in terms of career. Even now, I sometimes think I'm a bit behind. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy enough but sometimes wonder where I'd be if I'd just done the education side when I was supposed to.

 

So focus on your studies, and put your coin collection below that. You can still work on it when time allows, just see what you can get from your change, or exchanging with friends & family. I know it may not be the most interesting or valuable collection but it's still a good start. Accept that you might go weeks or even months without finding anything new. It's also okay to put a hobby down for a bit.

 

You can teach yourself how to research things. You can find out how you want to display them. You can still build a fair collection. If it is the earlier ~1900 coins that capture your interest, remember they've survived a hundred years already. They can survive a couple more until you're a little older. 🙂

 

To answer your question, there's plenty of worse things. You could end up part of a gang or get involved with drugs. You're not that far off potentially being a parent if you're reckless in that way. Over here in the UK, we have some drug rings who specifically target early teenagers to act as drug mules (i.e. moving drugs across locations within the country, or getting them into schools) because they know even if you're caught, you'd get a softer punishment than a full adult.

Some of the kids I went to school with had their first child whilst still in school themselves (Youngest couple were 15 (her), and 14 (him)). Think how much that would completely transform your life - and probably not for the best.

Don't let yourself wind up like that. If you're a good student, then you owe it to yourself to make the most of it & give yourself the best opportunities in this life.

 

Anyway, I'm rambling again. 😛

Long comment made short: Studies first. Coins second. For now, build a collection from whatever passes through your hands and you can afford to keep, and use it to understand coins & develop your coin identifying skills. Then when you're a bit bigger (and hopefully on the start of a successful career), you'll know what you want in your dream collection and have the skills to make it properly.

 

P.s. Another Garfield fan here. Although I'm more an older comics fan (my favourite era is the 1930s - 50s), I can certainly enjoy stuff from every era. Besides, we can all relate to hating Mondays. 😉

Thanks for answering my question!

Mondays are the worst.

MIMAEL

Hi. 

       Parents must be obeyed. I don't know what the legal norm is in India when a minor accepts registered mail or a parcel. But I think it's not possible, and the minor's legal representative would have to accept the parcel. It probably doesn't matter when sending, there you pay financially and the post office doesn't care.

      Focus your attention on your studies in school as well as studying coins and collecting circulating coins of India. 

      The variety and variety of mints, regular commemorative circulation coins are very, very widespread in India. And for parents to also think of you when they come across a commemorative coin.

Of course they won't agree, you live in a society that knows that money is not for playing and throwing in boxes. It is used for food and satisfying needs such as clothing, transportation, food.

Well, take a look at the hobby of collecting around the world through different eyes:

* Footballer Ronaldo also didn't collect cars since childhood (expensive sports cars, Ferrari, Lamborghini, RR, and many others). His parents would also make excuses for him when he was a child.

* Actor and comedian Rowan Atkinson also has a car collection. But when he was young, his parents would have made excuses for him to throw 💰 money into scrap metal (Aston Martin, Audis, BMWs and variants of all of them)

 

So take it slow, without stress, focus on school so that you have something to buy with that money. Education and being able to do something comes first.

Ivan

Thanks Ivan!

My parents do know that some specific types of money IS for collecting like older circulating notes, notes with different signatures or even commemorative coins. But, if I want my dream coins, I definitely need to work for it. Thanks, Ivan!

P.S Are you a car enthusiast?

The Nerd In Disgui

 

P.S Are you a car enthusiast?

Thanks. No, I'm not a car enthusiast, I even voluntarily gave up driving for traffic safety reasons so as not to cause a traffic accident. I can't turn my neck well due to illness. So I sold the car.

However, the sons are enthusiasts of Honda cars. The younger son has two Hondas. Both from his older brother. And the older one now has about nine Honda cars. He is in the club of enthusiasts and supporters of this brand.

I guess it's because of me, my father, that he needs to collect something. It's supposed to be metal. So he's also a collector.

But let him collect what he wants,, he who plays will not be angry,,

Ahoj Ivan