Help destinguis the different, but similar Haitian notes? [Risolto]

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More specifically I want to know what to write in the titel field, in order to more easily destinguis them?

For instance we got these four very similar notes, with no indicator of how to identify them from each other:

N#209179 

N#229414 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note229385.html 

N#223131 

 

The only difference I seem to find is the law of which they are issued under.

It's such an headache to figure out which note you have, if you don't speak French or have light/vision problems.

 

Maybe referee @ngdawa has an opinion of how to more easily identify all the different Haitian notes, which only seem to differ in text… They are all ND, which doesn't help at all and they shouldn't be, if they have a law of issue on them. 

 

The four listed above are just some of the similar notes with no initial differnce, there seems to be quite a lot of them.

 

Any help or advice would be greatly appriciated. Thanks 😁

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There is very little difference between these four banknotes - perhaps merging some of them into each other ought to be considered?

Hello!

 

The differences between the P#200 and the P#210 are in the captions below the portrait on the front and above the coat of arms on the back. This distinction deserves two separate records.

 

The difference between the P#230 and the P#230A is in the printing on different materials. The P#230A in Tivek results (I think) in different UV images than the P#230. More details can be seen in the BNM.

 

I have the impression that a similar discussion to this was made with the 2 Gourdes note a few months ago. I think the records were kept separate, as I think these should also remain separate.

 

Regards,

Vladimir.

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

Thanks for the fast weight-in! And I'm also for them staying seperate (at least based on the information I had at the time I tried to change the titels first time… Long ago).

But my question is mostly what to write in the titel field or somewhere else, in order to more easily identify them from each other? Maybe even more for those of us without a blacklight, if that's one of the differences? :D

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Hello, @Jamtrup!

 

Do you have any initial suggestions on what we could put in the titles (or records) to make identification easier? =)

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

I'm too blind for this 😅🤓

 

I have tried like this, as an example:

N#209179 (Law of 12th of april, 1919)

N#229414 (Law of 22th of Nomeber, 1973)

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/note229385.html (Law of 17th of August, 1979)

N#223131  (Law of 17th of August, 1979)

 

The two last are just the same for what I could see..? Remember I don't speak French, so there could be some nuances I wouldn't notice.

 

I'll still insist the referee's opinion as well, since they should be more knowledgable… I only have 5 banknotes from Haiti and no books specialiesed in them. 

@ngdawa ? A penny for your thoughts?

 

Standard Catalog of  World Paper Money say for the 4 examples

National Bank of Haiti:

P#200: Convention du 12 Avril 1919 - Tenth Issue.

P#210: Eleventh issue (ca. 1973) Lois des 21 Mai et 15 Mai 1953 et au Décret du 22 Novembre (issued 1979)

Bank of the Republic of Haiti:

P#230: Small size numeral (6 digits?) Printed on paper with planchettes.

P#230A: Large size numeral (5 digits?) Printed on Tyvek.

 

The P#230 and 230A are very similar in the book and on banknote museum.

At least the bank is a destingusing feature for half of them…

 

http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/countries/AME/HAI/HAI0230.htm

http://www.banknote.ws/COLLECTION/countries/AME/HAI/HAI0230A2.htm

 

And that's just those 4 notes. We also need to get a destunguis between the other similar notes, which may not be the same.

 

Could any of this rambeling be used, @vladthiengo ? 😅😁

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Hi, Jacob.

 

Many things can be proposed for better identification. Then the issuer's referee will analyze whether or not it is viable. =)

 

Again, I believe that requests could be made directly in the records, explaining in the comments field the reason for the request. You are right to ask for the referee's opinion... but the forum here ends up not having much for us to do.

 

I will wait another week to see if we get an answer, ok?

 

Greetings,

Vladimir

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

Hello!

@Jamtrup, another week has passed and we have not had a response from the referee. =/

 

As I mentioned before, you can make suggestions for titles directly in the registrations. Then, the issuer's referee or any other master referee (after a week) can accept or reject your suggestions.

 

I thank you in advance for your relevant observation regarding these registers!

 

Regards,

Vladimir.

Vladimir
Catalogue Administrator and Banknote Master Referee.

I would rather get more opinions, if not from the referee, then from other users. Maybe someone more knowledgable at Haitian notes or French language? In part because it's also a lot of notes, all which may have different small details..? They should probably all be linked, so you have a chance to find the correct one..?

 

I may try with one of my own notes over the Easter holiday, and see what the referee say though.

 

Will see what happens :)

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Are you also looking to see if the imprint is the same for each note?

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