Britannia Commemorative Society - duplicate [Risolto]

WRT “The Mayflower” (BCS 24) two listings occur.

The 999 listing is correct

N#445297 (correct)

The 925 listing incorrect

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/exonumia235186.html (wrong)

I would like to see the info of both medals combined, apart from the silver composition.

For instance the “wrong” medal has an edge description, that the “correct” medal doesn't list, as well as additional obv/rev legend (BCS 24 1970) etc. 

Maybe someone can decide which is the obv and rev!

So the best bits of both medals please!

Cheers

Simon

Yes quite right, I meant to say that these records should be “merged”. There simply were no 925 medals produced by the BCS in that time frame. The individual medals were all stamped with the membership number on the edge. In my case, the seven that I own, are all stamped 720 on the edge. As to the obv/rev, the subject is “the ship” so it should be the obverse (again, on most of the medals I have, the engraver & subject are the obverse and the BCS number and date are on the reverse).

Hello, One of the medals says Franklin Mint, the other says John Pinches. Do you know which version is correct? Thank you.

There seem to be at least 3 mints and various sizes and finishes. These notes from BCS 1 N#490017

"Issued by The Britannia Commemorative Society, Philadelphia, PA & The Britannia Commemorative Society Ltd, London.

This medal was the first in the series of sixty by the society. The silver 44 mm medals in a proof finish, were issued only to members. The Franklin Mint struck 1395 of the silver 44 mm medals for distribution to the society's North American members, the rest (809) were struck by Johnson Matthey & Co. (reference?) for other (England & World) members.

According to page 8 of an article on Dora De Pedery Hunt by Brian Thomson, in The Canadian Centennial Collector, Summer 2015, Volume 1, Number 4 (which also describes BCS 4).

"The Britannia Commemorative Society is devoted to British history. The dies are made at
The Franklin Mint and the 1395 fine silver proofs are struck for each one of its members in
North America before the dies being sent to Great Britain where 809 proofs are struck for
members in England and other parts of the world."

In addition, other sizes and metals were sold publicly. Bronze, Silver, Gold, & Platinum 57 mm are in matte finish with limited but unknown mintages. John Pinches Medallist Ltd., London struck all the 57 mm medals (reference ?)."

It would seem Pinches didn't issue 44mm medals?

Ok,

Je possède le “Guidebook of Franklin Mint issues by Krause” (version 1980, pages 62-63).

Il est effectivement indiqué silver 999, 44mm. 1395 médailles éditées par Franklin Mint, puis 809 éditées par la suite avec les mêmes matrices (donc 44mm) envoyées en Angleterre, sans plus de précision concernant l'atelier (soit 2204 exemplaires au total).

Tant que l'on ne peut pas différencier les  deux ateliers on va rester sur une seule ligne de 2204 exemplaires comme c'était déjà le cas sur la fiche 445297 BCS24 et la fiche BCS1 (Franklin Mint sûr et un autre inconnu qui pourrait être Johnson Matthey & Co.?, pas de référence pour le moment).

La fiche 235186 BCS24 sera donc supprimée.

Merci à vous.