Add issuing entity: Maecri, from Italy [Risolto]

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Is Maecri an issuing entity?

 

I think Maecri is the issuing entity but there are some doubts with @buhasapos (author of the reference catalogue of elongated coins Elongando... https://en.numista.com/literature/volume.php?id=8853).

 

That catalogue uses the concepts:

  • Installer: Company that install the vending machines that make the elongated coins.
  • Engraver: Company that create the design.

 

There are different possibilities:

  • installer and engraver are the same company;
  • coins have the engraver's mark, and the installer is other company;
  • coins have two different marks: the engraver's, and the installer's;
  • more?

 

buhasapos comments this

buhasapos

Regarding registering it as a Prensacar token, for us there is a difference. Prensacar purchases machines from various manufacturers and installs them in Spain and other countries (France, Portugal) under its “Prensacar” trademark and now with the “Prensacar Tokens” medals.

Maecri, on the other hand, does not install any machines in Spain, they are installed by other companies, including Prensacar; but in the designs that Maecri creates, they always include their initials “MC”. Therefore, we do not consider Maecri to be similar to Prensacar, but rather the “engraver” of those designs.

In the case of Numista, I think both companies (Prensacar Tokens https://en.numista.com/catalogue/issuing_entity.php?id=4257 and Maecri) are issuing entities. https://en.numista.com/help/add-or-modify-an-issuing-entity-in-the-catalogue-193.html The engraver is a person https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q329439

 

buhasapos

Take a look at the S-001 series from Cabárceno Park in Cantabria https://www.elongando.cat/PATRON.html?q=Cantabria. Eurotoken commissioned several machines from Maecri, but wanted to include his initials in the designs and also number them. Thus, each of the elongated coins from that installer (Eurotoken) has three markings: MC by the engraver (on one long side), ET by the installer (on the short end of the handle), and a Roman numeral "I to XII" (on the other long side).

This is an elongated coin in the S-001 series:

Elongando# S-001-2
  • MC – mark of Maecri
  • ET – mark of Eurotoken
  • VI – sequence number

 

My understanding:

  • In any case, for Numista, the engraver is the person who engraves the design (unknown in this case).
  • If Eurotoken did not include its mark, there would be only one issuing entity: Maecri.

    For example, these elongated coins https://en.numista.com/catalogue/index.php?se=11521&p=1 are made in a vending machine of (or owned by?) Maecri, installed by Prensacar Tokens, and they only have the privy mark “MC”, so I assume the issuing entity is Maecri, not Prensacar Tokens.
     
  • Since Eurotoken includes its mark, both would be issuing entities: Maecri and Eurotoken (Numista allows up to two).
  • Regarding the sequence number, it is not important for this (but it would be commented on the page of the coin).

 

Is my reasoning correct?

 

I mention @Danthann the referee of elongated coins. I guess you have encountered similar cases and know more about this.

 

Information to add

 

  • Name
    • Option 1: (local/EN/FR/ES/IT/… Latin alphabet languages): Maecri
    • Option 2:
      • (EN) Maecri Italy
      • (local/FR/ES/IT/… Latin alphabet languages): Maecri
  • Description (EN): It was founded in 2004 and specialises in creating tourist souvenirs in the form of medals and elongated coins, using its own vending machines installed in tourist locations.
  • Issuers: There are many, but at this moment I know:
    Spain N#346160
    Italy, Vaticano, Hungary, San Marino (see https://www.maecri.com/it/gallery) 
  • Country: Italy
  • City: Uboldo https://www.geonames.org/6542312/uboldo.html
  • Type: private company
  • Wikidata ID: It does not have
  • Official website: https://www.maecri.com/

 

Privy mark “MC”

 

The objects issued by Maecri have the privy mark “MC”. Could this mark be added to the database?

 

The guidelines say nothing related to marks of issuing entities, but numista has some privy marks. I do not know what information to provide:

  • Mark: MC
  • Label: Maecri privy mark
  • Image: ?
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

I add a request for add the privy mark “MC” of this issuing entity, and an example of elongated coins with the mark “MC” and made in a vending machine installed by Prensacar Tokens.

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Stato cambiato a Fatto (Jarcek, 24 Ott 2025, 11:46)

I cannot add mark to the issuing entity sadly.

 

Entity itself is added.

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Jarcek

I cannot add mark to the issuing entity sadly.

What a pity! Can it be added as a mark without relationship? Like the India Company privy mark N#125539

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

Most probably. :D Well, it seems I can forget some mechanics too. Will delve into it in the next days.

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Stato cambiato a Iniziato (Jarcek, 24 Ott 2025, 20:52)

Jarcek

Most probably. :D Well, it seems I can forget some mechanics too. Will delve into it in the next days.

I found this: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic144237.html

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.
Stato cambiato a Fatto (Jarcek, 4 Nov 2025, 10:54)

Wonky, but it should work, I just added the mark.

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Works. I added here N#347719

 

I see this in the translation page of marks:

 

You must add text in English (to translate it into other languages). I think…

  • Name: Maecri privy mark ❌ → (empty)
  • Position title (EN): (empty) ❌ → Maecri privy mark
  • Mark description (EN): (empty) ❌ →  MC
Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

@Jarcek see this https://en.numista.com/forum/topic167908.html#p1293241

Wanted & swap list (euro coins & world coins, exonumia and banknotes circulated) https://goo.gl/AQjfKp - I have euro & world CC coins for swap.

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