NOT Austrian Empire km#2111

The coin was issued under francis II, declared on the coin as Romanum emperor in 1800. Only in 1806 the same person became francis I, Austrian emperor. Therefore it should be considered as Holy Roman Empire coin, Not Austrian Empires.

This coin never was intended nor did it ever circulated through the whole HRE. The legend simply lists the major titles of the monarch, with Emperor of the HRE being just one part.

The HRE never truly had a unified currency as you might could deduce by looking at the sheer number of coins listed under the German States.

You could argue that the Austrian Empire be listed as a part of the HRE but like the German States it is simply a compromise of database structure and simplification of complex real world circumstances.

By that logic, and since HRE does differ as specific country in Numista, can you explain what the difference between that coin and Holy Roman Empire KM#333 issued by francis I 40 years earlier? Tnx :)

For the more, since the issuer himself changed is oun title only in 1806 - due to political consequence, every coin he issues earlier to that, should be consider as issue of the former political form…

When you talk about specific objects always provide links to he respective catalog pages so people don't have to search for them just to know what you are talking about.

N#29437 

I'm not an expert in medieval/Renaissance German coinage nor was I responsible for the catalog structure of them on Numista but the Thalers were one of the few pushes for a unified currency next to a few imperial ordinances in the 16^th century so maybe that's why it's listed as is (also see the comment on the page). Not that it worked really well as many states issued their own (sub)-types, sometimes in a different foot.

Not sure what this is about. Coin is in HRE now.

If you think it should be somewhere else, please modify it via link at the bottom of the page.