China/Yunnan Province 2 jiao year 38/1949: medal or coin alignment?

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This question concerns this coin:

 

http://en.numista.com/22635

 

Question: My specimen of this coin has coin alignment, but the Numista page for this coin says it should have medal alignment. 

 

I know many Chinese coins are fake/forgeries. The design and legends on my coin match the photos on the Numista page; I don't see any obvious differences that suggest it isn't real. The weight is slightly lower than the value given on the Numista page (5.453 grams versus 5.62 grams) but that could be due to debasing of the silver alloy used to make the coin at the mint (this was he last year of the Republic of China); cutting back on the silver content would result in a lower weight because silver is denser than copper (presumably the other metal used to make the alloy for this coin) and some Yunnan province coins are known to have been made with alloys of lower silver content as time passed (i.e., as the coin mintage date got closer to 1949; for example the ½ yuan N# 90660). The diameter of my coin is 24.25 mm versus the Numista value of 24 mm.

 

I would like to ask for some help from members who also own a specimen of this particular coin: what is the weight of your coin (if you have that information) and is your coin medal or coin alignment?

 

Because there are so many fake Chinese coins, it is really important that the data on the Numista page for Chinese coins be as accurate as possible, because people will use those data the help decide whether their specimen of a particular coin is real or fake. 

 

Thanks.

Or use that data to produce more accurate fakes?

 

As for the medal versus coin alignment, there are many instances of coins being minted in both - so this will not be a definitive factor in deciding if yours is a fake or not.

 

What would help, is if you provide images of your coin, so that many expert eyes can give you visual analysis and thus some feedback concerning the authenticity of your coin.

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Sorry for the long delay in replying - I am still new to the photographing of coins and getting the pictures uploaded to the site.

 

Here are pictures the coin in question:

 

 

These pictures show medal alignment, but that is just for clarity. In reality, when reverse is shown with the orientation it has in the photo, the obverse is upside down.

 Pictures not enlargeable as ‘miniatures’ in link. 

https://en.numista.com/forum/images/69dda20f0802d.png 

 

Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins

I don‘t own one of these coins, so I can’t contribute a weight or alignment as the OP asked, however if I were to comment on the coins authenticity (solely based on the images), I would question whether this was a genuine coin to start with.

 

There are 3 or 4 signs on the coin that might indicate forgery to the naked eye (general terms), which may or may not apply to this coin, as said before because I don’t own one and have no experience with Chinese coins (other than everyone I have seen in silver for sale at cheap price is a fake), and as the minting process of this time is the same the world over, I use my general experience in this case, so it is comparable to other silver coins of the day and to other Chinese fakes.

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