German coin 1928 without mint mark [Risolto]

Good evening, the seller is offering this coin for sale, it is: N#2546

It is from 1928 and does not have any mint mark on it.

For better clarity, I had the image sharpened by artificial intelligence, so don't look too hard at the details that are a little distorted.
The main thing is that there is no mint mark and I would like to know where I can learn more about this.

Thank you very much

This is either entirely AI generated by you or the Chinese or Balkanese person who faked it had looked to deep in the rice wine/ vodka bottle. 

Idolenz

This is either entirely AI generated by you or the Chinese or Balkanese person who faked it had looked to deep in the rice wine/ vodka bottle. 

This is not generated, but just sharpened. In that case, here is the original

This image at least looks like a normal coin. But from that ass quality image I wouldn't deduce any lacking of a mintmark, it could hide behind any of those compression artefacts and blur and/or the coin had a weak strike. Demand better images.

Unfortunately, it's in a pile of other coins and if the seller knew what he was selling, he wouldn't have put it there, in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm more interested in learning more about this mintage. I don't need to know the price.

"For better clarity, I had the image sharpened by artificial intelligence, so don't look too hard at the details that are a little distorted."

Sorry but that does not prove at all that there is no mintmark. The only other photo does not contain enough detail to indicate if there is a mintmark or not so there is nothing for the AI to go off.

This coin will have a mintmark, it may just be worn. The seller may also have photoshopped the picture, there is just not a good enough photo of it.

The whole coin is wrong in the details. I don't think it could be tooled to look like this, even if the mintmark was removed intentionally. Counterfeit? It should look something like this:   http://www.moneta-coins.com/showphoto.php?photo=1725&title=germany-50-pf-1937-j&cat=636

Juno Moneta

The whole coin is wrong in the details. I don't think it could be tooled to look like this, even if the mintmark was removed intentionally. Counterfeit? It should look something like this:   http://www.moneta-coins.com/showphoto.php?photo=1725&title=germany-50-pf-1937-j&cat=636

I know those coins and I have a few at home, but on this coin, even though it can't be shown better, it seems to me that there is no mint mark and I'm taking the original photo, not the sharpened AI one. Of course, I admit that it could be so damaged that the mint mark is not visible

A brief search has let me to conclude that there is no such thing as one with no mintmarks. I would ignore this coin as being special, just as a normal 50pf coin. The best outcome is the mintmark is a worn G which would be lowest mintage that year. 

Thanks everyone for the help and I'm closing this thread.

I know the originator of this discussion asked that the topic be closed but I think the Numista  webpage for this coin series may still have a problem related to this issue.

Before discussing that, the coin that instigated this discussion isn't real. The mintmarks on the coins in this series were raised, so a skilled metal worker could probably remove a mintmark from a normal 1928 dated coin in such a way that the alteration could be difficult to detect. The coin in question, however, has lots of design deviations which brand it as not real (either a contemporary counterfeit, or a modern fake) including the style of the large "50" on the reverse, and the details within the oak leaves and acorns surrounding the inner circle on the reverse.

I think we can absolutely say that the pictured coin does NOT prove that some 1928 coins were made without a mintmark.

Now here's the problem that I wanted to bring up related to this issue: On the Numista webpage for this coin series, there is a comment that (1) repeats the list of German mints for some reason; and (2) includes the following cryptic statement: “The year 1928 also exists without a different number.”

The original comment was in French (and this might just be a bad translation - the apparently “mints ” in French are “monetary workshops” - but does anybody know what this statement is supposed to mean? When I first read it (before I read this forum discussion), I thought it meant that some 1928 dated coins in this series do indeed lack a mintmark - and that leads back to this forum discussion. I don't know if the comment was added because of this discussion, but since it repeats information already present on the web page (the names of the German mints) and because it might be implying that 1928 dated coins with no mintmark actually do exist, I recommend that the entire comment be removed from the web page.

Google translates it as, “The year 1928 also exists without a privy mark.”  Since none of the coins have a privy mark I would assume it meant mint mark.  That comment predates this post.

Were you evaluating the picture in the original post (AI manipulated) or the real picture?

I was commenting on the coin pictured in the holder at the beginning of the post - the details of the design are wrong for it to be a real coin.

As discussed above that was an AI “sharpening” of this picture.