Franciscvs I D G Avstriae Imperator 1826 V

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 11:26 #

HVN• BOH•LOMB•ET VEN• - GAL•LOD•IL•REX•A•A•1826
Can someone help me to find out numismatic value.
Thanks, Tiho

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 11:35 #

Maybe 20 kreuzer Austria...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22621.html

post some fotos or more info...

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 12:01 #

Yes photos please. It's definitely an Austrian coin; the beginning HVN• BOH•LOMB•ET VEN stands for Hungary Bohemia Lombardy and Venice.

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Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 12:21 #

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 12:36 #

looks like 1 Thaler - Franz I
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces33431.html
but V?
fake?

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 12:39 #

V is mintmark Venice under the Italian State of Lombardy Venice so it's either
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces21360.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces38423.html
But check the weight to be sure which one it is, or to see if it's a fake; do also check if it sticks to a magnet. If it's real, congrats - awesome coin.

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Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 12:42 #

aaa ok, thank you apuking!

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 13:19 #

Thanks for your help. Coin is antimagnetic, weight about 13 g., but it is a yellow color on the outside. Probably FAKE, as you say. How can I be 100% sure?

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 13:33 #

hmm there are patinas of silver that can colour to a yellow golden tone but this looks to be made out of brass. Do you have the diameter in mm of your coin?

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Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 14:26 #

30.4 mm.

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 14:34 #

So I'm sorry but looks like yours is not an original, as the diameter should be 35 mm.

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Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 22:58 #

The most similar I've found is: VENEZIA FRANCESCO I D’ASBURGO LORENA (1815-1835) Mezzo Scudo Nuovo 1826 Venezia, argento gr. 12,975. c.s., Pagani 69, CNI 27, Her. 573. Rara
Where have you found the information that 1/2 Scudo must have a 35 mm?

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 23:29 #

Oh I'm really sorry - it's the 1/2 thaler of Austria that is 35mm; the one from Venice and Lombardy is 30mm. Sorry for that misinformation.

http://maxentius.lamoneta.it/PagineStatiItaliani/FrancescoIAsburgo.htm

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Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 23:43 #

Does not matter. If it is original, and maybe it is, what its value, like this scratched, and where to offer.

Pubblicato: 3 Mag 2013, 23:47 #

Still not sure if it's real, can't really say from the pictures. Heres a link with approx values http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/WorldCoinPrices.aspx?category=120611&worldcoinid=308459

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Pubblicato: 4 Mag 2013, 15:08 #

Better photos !

Pubblicato: 5 Mag 2013, 13:54 #

I'm not in numismatics, I happen to have this coin, interested me how much coin has lost value because of these scratches, and whether it can be polished, as is scratched the surface, not deep!?

Pubblicato: 5 Mag 2013, 14:29 #

Never polish it, some people use tooling to polish hard scratches like this offf but it will also be recognised by collectors and it wouldn´t improve its value. It's hard to say by how much percent of the value is lost due to the scratches. This is my guess but I'd say its catalogue value minus 50-70% depends also how much the coin is sought after.

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Pubblicato: 7 Mag 2013, 15:22 #

Thanks for your answers!
I think it is gold plated coin, and he was scratched just gilding, not silver. But anyway, if I can not sell this for more than 200 €, I give up!