Spanish countermarked maravedís

Hello everyone
One month ago, I was working trying to include in the Numista Catalogue, the 6 official Spanish countermarks from XVII century. In that time, there was a big economic crisis in the Spanish Empire. One of the solutions that the monarchy found to obtain money was to increase the value of the copper coins maravedis, with countermark that increase their value and gave a profit to the public arks.
These countermarks, include a number, with the new value, the mintmark, the year, and different decorative motives, such as crowns, flowers, etc. The six are different. It impossible to understand the numismatic of Spain without them, and only in this period was performed. For example, the countermark of 1641, supported the war with France in Catalonia and the avoid to stop the Portugal emancipation.
I was surprised when the moderator Zegeri   , told me that numista, does not allow to include countermark in the catalogue. So at the end my two hours of work was lost time.  
It is a pity, because the catalogue of Spanish coins from XVI an XVII is very poor, has several mistakes and the middle age practically does not exist. I would like to continue including the coins from that period, because it is the time I collect, but with this experience I decided to stop.
Could someone explain me, how it is possible to include in the catalogue a token of fruit of a British bingo, and not an official countermark.
Regards.

Hello, Numismaticon

The first time an user asked to add one of these official Spanish countermarked coins from XVII century to Numista catalog I raised the question to the team. They answered only add countermarked coins if it's in SCWC. I think in Numista there's a strong influence of Krause's criteria and this is a serious limitation of the potential of this site. There has been several threads discussing about this issue.

These maravedis aren't in SCWC or Calicó (I think). They aren't 6 countermarks, thery are 6 countermarks over a lot of different coins. In an article I read that there are near 150 countermarked types of coins in this group, without mint places. I would like to have all of them in our catalog, but must be under a guideline of the team, common for all countries.

As you say, the catalog of Spanish coins from XVI an XVII is very poor, only 49 coins. When you did your requests, first I send you a PM explaining why and asking you to edit your requests to add them as the base coins, not the countermarked coins. I didn't reject any of your requests, only asked you to do a modification on them.

Please, don't be discouraged and follow improving the catalog. I am always trying to help to all members in cataloging, forum and PM about Spanish coins. Please correct any mistake in Spanish catalog or add coins, and you'll see your time is not lost.

And these are not good times for bingo tokens in Numista.

Thanks for your fast answer.
In all the Spanish catalogue coins for that time, you can find the countermarks of Philips III and IV (for instant Calico, Trigo, pages: 235 and 294, the one you said does not include them). They are not 150, the exactly number is: 112. The writer of the article you read maybe was under the effect of some type of drug , because all the countermark has mint place. It would be very stupid to countermark coins without any information about of who and where was made the countermark.
1602: two values: 4 and 12 maravedis. Mintmarks: 8 (Burgos, Cuenca, Toledo, Granada, etc.)
1636: two values: IV and XII maravedis. Mintmarks: 9 (previous + Madrid).
1641: two values: VIII and XIII maravedis. Mintmarks: 9.
1651-1652: two values: 4 and 8 maravedis. Mintmarks: 10 (the previous + Trujillo.)
1654-1655: two values: 4 and 8 maravedis. Mintmarks: 10.
1658-1659: two values: 4 and 8 maravedis. Mintmarks: 10. The countermark covers all the coin.
So, 6 types and 12 values 8-10 mintmarks. Anyway, what is the problem? It is too much to include 12 groups of Spanish coin?
Any coin copper coin was minted in Castilla since 1626 to 1661, only countermarks.
If the Team   has decided not to include the Spanish Habsburg countermark, it is OK for me. I believe that the problem in these situations is the lack of knowledge.   Thanks again.
Regards.

zegeri does a fine job with Spanish coinage, but a note about countermarks:

Official countermarks by a recognized government: all hosts and countermarks must be listed separately
Countermarks by unrecognized governments: listed under *Tokens* as fantasy strikes
Private countermarks: unlisted as personal comments

I know little of Spanish countermarks, but in the case of Portuguese countermarks, for example, they must be listed separately not because they are in WC but because they were issued by a recognized government.

I would be very interested in seeing the original article written be the commenter and any other articles on the subject! Thank you.