Can an Admin check and validate

Can an Admin check and validate these, please?



They have been hung there for over 2 weeks. I asked referee stats for those countries but Xavier green or red light is no where to be seen. So please an Admin can check them.

Currently there are 1033 pending requests on Numista, although some referees and team members do the very best they can, it may take some time before requests are being processed. Also many referees and team members are currently on vacation or busy with work or exams. By that some of your requests don't comply with the guidelines for modification and therefore it also takes more time to process them.

Cita: EuromuntCurrently there are 1033 pending requests on Numista, although some referees and team members do the very best they can, it may take some time before requests are being processed. Also many referees and team members are currently on vacation or busy with work or exams. By that some of your requests don't comply with the guidelines for modification and therefore it also takes more time to process them.

... and that is why I have asked for Referee stats for several Central American countries without referee, as well as Mexico (2nd referee) and Mexico - Revolutionary. With me there, those requests would be processed way faster.

More than 1.000 pending requests is way to much.
I understand referees and team members are sometimes busy with work or exams. And I certainly award them their vacation. But that's not the only reason Numista is so far behind with the requests. We certainly have some wonderful team members and referees who do their very best but unfortunately we also have some referees who aren't active at all anymore. I also have some requests pending, for almost a month now. But one referee doesn't even open his messages. Another referee opens his messages but takes no action at all. He doesn't answer my messages, he doesn't correct errors or mistakes you've seen in the catalog and so on. That's very frustrating.
When you engage yourself for being a team member or referee, then you make a commitment towards the community and we count on them. No problem if some of them are at a given moment  too busy. Just answer your messages that you are temporarily too busy and we'll understand that, there is life beyond collecting. But hearing nothing at all of them is a lack of basic courtesy and as I said, that's also very frustrating.

On the other hand, we have people like erdvilla and others, who are committed, and have the time (or willing to make time for it), the spirit, the expertise and the will to improve this site (because no doubt about that, despite some difficulties Numista is a wonderful site) and they stay ignored. That's a pitty. We absolutely need people like them.
Today I read on the forum:

Cita: pnightingaleI recruited several serious numismatists up until 2013 when things started to go downhill (...).
Maybe things will improve in 2015. I sure hope so, it looks promising (...).

Let us work all together to go uphill again. There are enough very active members who desperately want to contribute. But sometimes it feels as if we got counterworked.

I didn't know there was so much pending job; but was just asking. My entries are normally legit, well elaborated and with as much info there is available; and images if I can find them from authorized sources, sometimes going to the extent of asking sellers if they allow me using their images from their sales; and when they answer it is almost an unanimous "Yes", because spreading knwoledge of their coins is an indirect way of increasing chances of sale. When they don't answer I don't use them, or when they have watermarks I simply don't ask.

Hi!
Erdvilla, Xavier is on vacation right now so he is not going to reply on any message. I believe you would become a referee for some countries, but just send another PM to Xavier after he returns from vacation.
I have also pending requests for over two months now, but I also know that accepting these requests is not an easy job and also that there are not enough people who can verify them. Also, nobody can't, or at least shouldn't accept change requests without checking them. Everyone can make a mistake, so all change requests need to be properly checked. And that is not easy.

So the only thing you can do, is just being patient.  

Regards
Kuna

Cita: erdvillaCan an Admin check and validate these, please?



They have been hung there for over 2 weeks. I asked referee stats for those countries but Xavier green or red light is no where to be seen. So please an Admin can check them.

Yes, When I needed a validation for a guatemalan coin, it was over a month, so I decided to make a post in the referee forum,and then, the person who validated it for me was not a catalog admin, it was Xavier himself.

Number has dropped to +/- 975 since I wrote the message but still way too many. Note that this figure includes the pending requests of referees (575 for referees/ 393 for catalog admins). Doesn't matter how much dedication you have to make something good of Numista, first you need to understand the guidelines and make sure that all of your requests comply with them. As long as someone can't make requests without making mistakes against the guidelines, he can't be a referee in my opinion. Not to mention that I estimate that at least 60% of the requests that we get doesn't comply with these guidelines. I think that the system of making "requests" should be changed entirely. Maybe somewhat like how they do it on Wikipedia, everyone is able to edit and monitor everything.

Only 3 of mine left to be validated, the rest had just been approved.

Cita: EuromuntAs long as someone can't make requests without making mistakes against the guidelines, he can't be a referee in my opinion.

Was that a general opinion; or are you directing that to me? I wonder because of that argument I got into with Florino some months ago.

Cita: erdvilla

Cita: EuromuntAs long as someone can't make requests without making mistakes against the guidelines, he can't be a referee in my opinion.

Was that a general opinion; or are you directing that to me? I wonder because of that argument I got into with Florino some months ago.

In general, referees need to be absolute experts in the field, now however many referees (and even team members) are inactive and don't know the coinage of the country of which they are the referee at all!

That is why my referee "aspirations" are only for my geo-area of dominance; Mexico, Central America, and even Ecuador if no Ecuadorian user wants to take charge of it, as I have plenty of knowledge from there as well.

Montana is one of the best refs out there, and he certainly has vast knowledge on Mexico's history and coinage, but he isn't able to process requests sometimes up to a month or more, and there are a lot of small details that need modification; of which I've told him, but he simply lacks the time to make them.

My argument with Florino almost half a year ago was about publishing coins without pictures, but if you can't find pictures that you can take without violating CR (ultra rare coins), but you can see and describe them I think that should do, as in the future some other user might find a picture which can be used with permission. But don't worry, for the countries I propose to be referee I plan on searching high and low for valid pictures, as my idea is to make them as best as possible.

Cita: erdvillaMy argument with Florino almost half a year ago was about publishing coins without pictures, but if you can't find pictures that you can take without violating CR (ultra rare coins), but you can see and describe them I think that should do, as in the future some other user might find a picture which can be used with permission.

I completely agree with you about that, recently I received messages from different users stating that another team member is also currently deleting new entries without images. As far as I know there has never been decided to delete entries if they don't contain images. Messages which I sent to both were read but stayed unanswered. It's very bad that these 2 think that they can rule Numista on their own.

Cita: Euromunt

Cita: erdvillaMy argument with Florino almost half a year ago was about publishing coins without pictures, but if you can't find pictures that you can take without violating CR (ultra rare coins), but you can see and describe them I think that should do, as in the future some other user might find a picture which can be used with permission.

I completely agree with you about that, recently I received messages from different users stating that another team member is also currently deleting new entries without images. As far as I know there has never been decided to delete entries if they don't contain images. Messages which I sent to both were read but stayed unanswered. It's very bad that these 2 think that they can rule Numista on their own.

I think they might have "good intentions"; some pretty hard-lined intentions, but good in the end. Maybe they want the catalog to be completely organized and as complete as possible.

But some times is impossible to get those images, and it really hurts when you (me in this case) come back and see  40+ new entries for some small Caribbean island-countries no one had paid much attention (I love insular coinage) all cancelled because they lacked images.
I know not having the images isn't ideal, but at least it is best than nothing.

Luckily I haven't had any other altercation with him, mostly because I try finding the images whenever possible (and I haven't asked for such ultra-rare coins in some time); but every time I send coins without images for an un-refereed country I get scared    But lately if I don't have the right to copy the images I at least sent a link to the images on the source field so that the member that reviews my request can at least see the image and certify I described it correctly.

Cita: EuromuntIn general, referees need to be absolute experts in the field, now however many referees (and even team members) are inactive and don't know the coinage of the country of which they are the referee at all!

Theoretical you are right. this would be ideal circumstances. But in the practice it doesn't work that way. Or we don't have absolute experts in certain fields, or we do have them but they aren't interested at all in a job as referee, or we do have them and they are interested but they absolutely don't have the time to do it. In short, reasons enough for not getting enough absolute experts in each field. So we have to row with the oars we have and be satisfied with what we can get.  And referees are human too. They are allowed to make mistakes (hopefully not too much though) just like we all make mistakes. Sooner or later someone will see these mistakes and then they can be corrected. Those mistakes happen now too. But now we have a few referees who don't care anymore or who don't have the time anymore and when you sent them messages with coin requests or you ask for corrections of some mistakes you saw, they even don't open their mails or they read them and then ignore them. These referees might have been absolute experts in the past but if I have to choose, I would like to have referees who might be a little bit less expert but who have the right attitude and the spirit and the motivation and the time to let it work and make this great site even a lot better.
Because a great site this is. Don't let us focus only on the things that are not like we would be they are and can be done better, a lot of great stuff happens now too. Yesterday I added 8 new coins to the catalog and today they were already validated. So there certainly are referees and team members here who do a wonderful job, only we need more of them, like erdvilla and others.

Cita: EuromuntNumber has dropped to +/- 975 since I wrote the message but still way too many. Note that this figure includes the pending requests of referees (575 for referees/ 393 for catalog admins). Doesn't matter how much dedication you have to make something good of Numista, first you need to understand the guidelines and make sure that all of your requests comply with them. As long as someone can't make requests without making mistakes against the guidelines, he can't be a referee in my opinion. Not to mention that I estimate that at least 60% of the requests that we get doesn't comply with these guidelines. I think that the system of making "requests" should be changed entirely. Maybe somewhat like how they do it on Wikipedia, everyone is able to edit and monitor everything.

I'm really pissed off with some referees who allow tokens alongside coins, or do not correct the guidelines, or at least send the requests back to the members. It is only recently that I have come back to Numista, validaded a whopping 400 requests (because no one else does them), only because I finally had time off. Referees who can't get their shit straight should stop complaining.

About two years ago I validated all of the Vatican City coins, but now I am no longer allowed to touch them because of power-hungry BS.

Cita: KennyG

Cita: EuromuntNumber has dropped to +/- 975 since I wrote the message but still way too many. Note that this figure includes the pending requests of referees (575 for referees/ 393 for catalog admins). Doesn't matter how much dedication you have to make something good of Numista, first you need to understand the guidelines and make sure that all of your requests comply with them. As long as someone can't make requests without making mistakes against the guidelines, he can't be a referee in my opinion. Not to mention that I estimate that at least 60% of the requests that we get doesn't comply with these guidelines. I think that the system of making "requests" should be changed entirely. Maybe somewhat like how they do it on Wikipedia, everyone is able to edit and monitor everything.

I'm really pissed off with some referees who allow tokens alongside coins, or do not correct the guidelines, or at least send the requests back to the members. It is only recently that I have come back to Numista, validaded a whopping 400 requests (because no one else does them), only because I finally had time off. Referees who can't get their shit straight should stop complaining.

About two years ago I validated all of the Vatican City coins, but now I am no longer allowed to touch them because of power-hungry BS.

Thanks for your work Ken (an for validating my pending requests as usual!).

Talking about tokens... I recently saw Switzerland has a BUNCH of "Shooting festival" tokens in its coin section (all those X# ones) But I doubt someone would dare to move them, as they roughly represent 20% of all Swiss "coins" in Numista, but they are improperly placed there since I can remember.

Ok. Now  I am having the same problem... I submitted requests for argentina, china empire, and ancient rome over a month ago, and still no answer!!! It appears as the referees are inactive...