A: Europe - all countries on the European continent except Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan (Asia), and Turkey/ Ottoman Empire (Middle East) and including Russia and Greenland
B: Asia - Central, Southern, and Northern, Eastern, and Southeastern Asia except Russia (Europe), Afghanistan and Iran (Middle East)
C. Africa - Western, Eastern, Southern, and Central Africa
D: Middle East - Arabic-speaking countries, Israel, Turkey, Afghanistan and Iran
E. US, Canada, and Atlantic Islands - United States, Canada, Caribbean islands (including Cuba), and British Overseas Territories in the Atlantic (including British Antarctic Territory)
F. Latin America - All non-island countries south of the US-Mexico border (including Mexico)
G. Australia and Pacific Islands - Australia, New Zealand, and small Pacific islands (except Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines)
H. Exonumia - all tokens, medals, and other coin-like objects (except patterns, which are considered "coins" and put into the category their issuing country is in)
Iceland counts as Europe I think? Same with Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, and Falkland Islands in US, Canada & Atlantic Islands? What about unclear territories as East Timor or Papua New Guinea?
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Just a last coin I'm hesitating is from British Guiana and West Indies. Numista consider them as from Guyana but its real geographic use is common with British West Indies.
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Cita: "dptashny"I'll go with E just because its also a British colony.
OK. But this makes this coin unsure to contest as in competition with geographically sure coins (F = Guatemala or maybe an upcoming coin from French Guiana, E = Canada or Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon)... Maybe should be better to take the other ones...
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I was just thinking it would be better to use coins from territories which are impossible to be considered as in a wrong category. As British Guiana, even a British colony, is also part of Latin America according to your definition, for example.
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Cita: "chomp-master"I was just thinking it would be better to use coins from territories which are impossible to be considered as in a wrong category. As British Guiana, even a British colony, is also part of Latin America according to your definition, for example.
I'm only using this kind of logic in the case of a controversy. Otherwise geography prevails. British Guiana is in Latin America because there's no controversy.
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I see I have until December to get sufficiently active in the forum. :D
Guh. Selecting one coin for some categories is easy... selecting one coin for Europe or North America is like being asked which eye I want to keep.
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Cita: "canadianjoe"Hats off to all that organize these events on this site like others have said it really makes this a fun and fantastic site.
Seconded! I have run a coin competition myself on another coin forum, and can attest to the amount of work that goes into it on the organizing side, to make it fun and fair on the competing and voting sides.
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Cita: "canadianjoe"Hats off to all that organize these events on this site like others have said it really makes this a fun and fantastic site.
Seconded! I have run a coin competition myself on another coin forum, and can attest to the amount of work that goes into it on the organizing side, to make it fun and fair on the competing and voting sides.
I declare the motion carried!
It might have had a few bumps in the road but I think it's the best contest of it's kind on the web, as the topic title says.
I'm waiting to see who else might offer up prizes. I've got a few things in mind, (yeah I got more of those '82 copper/zincoln sets to give away, plus some other stuff) but nothing that would make a worthy prize on it's own. I figured I'd wait and see which continent's prize needed beefing up.
Non illegitimis carborundum est. Excellent advice for all coins.
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As Afghanistan listed in Middle East, I hope that Pakistan would be classified as well...
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Anyway someone submitted an issue about one category of coinage: antique and medieval coinage. In MPCC IV they had their own category. But now they're joint with modern coinages in all concerned geographic categories. In particular the Arabic world would contain antique coinage made before Hijra...
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I think the categories are fine the way they are except for this: Why is there no category for ancients. Thos was there in MPCC4 and it worked very well.
The reason is that if someone wishes to post a beautiful coin from ancient rome, and a beautiful coin from france, Why shouldn't they be able to post both? There is too much difference Between the time periods for it just to be 1 category.
Notice that ancient Rome had a territory breaking over all actual territory categories, even the city was European, it extended to the whole Mediterranean coast and some inland territories. Such coin may count as either Europe or Arabic World (as actual territories of the African and Asian territories of the Roman Empire are now part of the Islamic nations). Anyway we can't make a decent competition between such coins and other coins from the same territories... Try to compete Gaul with Croatia, for example, or Islamic caliphates with Libya...
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Cita: "dptashny"Why don't you read the category definitions before asking nonsensical questions?
And to answer them:
Israel, Turkey = Middle East
Russia = Europe
Georgia = Asia
Every last one of these cases are explicitly mentioned in the category definitions!
I think georgia would make more sense in europe or the middle east.. just sayin
Cita: "dptashny"Why don't you read the category definitions before asking nonsensical questions?
And to answer them:
Israel, Turkey = Middle East
Russia = Europe
Georgia = Asia
Every last one of these cases are explicitly mentioned in the category definitions!
I think georgia would make more sense in europe or the middle east.. just sayin
Most people consider the Great Caucasus as the "boundary" of Europe, excluding all countries after the Russian Caucasus. But Georgia and Armenia mostly consider themselves as European (Dato may confirm). And Azerbaijan too in some situations, but this country is part, by the way, of the Islamic World, excluding it from this debate as considering Georgia (and in extenso Armenia) as either European or Asian.
Notice by the same way that Cyprus, closer to Asia but considered as an extension of ancient Greece, is now part of EU.
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This is not an improvement but a question like I did before. Now Cilicia is Turkish, but would we consider the Armenian kingdom of Cilicia as Asian as the rulers were not Muslim?
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Cita: "dptashny"CATEGORY DEFINITIONS
A: Europe - all countries on the European continent except Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Armenia (Asia), and Turkey/ Ottoman Empire (Middle East) and including Russia and Greenland
B: Asia - Central, Southern, and Northern, Eastern, and Southeastern Asia except Russia (Europe), Afghanistan and Iran (Middle East)
C. Africa - Western, Eastern, Southern, and Central Africa
D: Middle East - Arabic-speaking countries, Israel, Turkey, Afghanistan and Iran
E. US, Canada, and Atlantic Islands - United States, Canada, Caribbean islands (including Cuba), and British Overseas Territories in the Atlantic (including British Antarctic Territory)
F. Latin America - All non-island countries south of the US-Mexico border (including Mexico)
G. Australia and Pacific Islands - Australia, New Zealand, and small Pacific islands (except Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines)
H. Exonumia - all tokens, medals, and other coin-like objects (except patterns, which are considered "coins" and put into the category their issuing country is in)
wait...so does this mean cuba would go under us can atl. rather than latin?
Cita: "dptashny"CATEGORY DEFINITIONS
A: Europe - all countries on the European continent except Azerbaijan, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Armenia (Asia), and Turkey/ Ottoman Empire (Middle East) and including Russia and Greenland
B: Asia - Central, Southern, and Northern, Eastern, and Southeastern Asia except Russia (Europe), Afghanistan and Iran (Middle East)
C. Africa - Western, Eastern, Southern, and Central Africa
D: Middle East - Arabic-speaking countries, Israel, Turkey, Afghanistan and Iran
E. US, Canada, and Atlantic Islands - United States, Canada, Caribbean islands (including Cuba), and British Overseas Territories in the Atlantic (including British Antarctic Territory)
F. Latin America - All non-island countries south of the US-Mexico border (including Mexico)
G. Australia and Pacific Islands - Australia, New Zealand, and small Pacific islands (except Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, and the Philippines)
H. Exonumia - all tokens, medals, and other coin-like objects (except patterns, which are considered "coins" and put into the category their issuing country is in)
wait...so does this mean cuba would go under us can atl. rather than latin?
Well, that's true, under such definitions. A linguistic definition like Middle East would have been clearer (Spanish-speaking and Portuguese-speaking countries).
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If it is irregular round, like an ancient coin, then I can get a close circle around it. If it has anything else, like octagon, or something like that, I can get exact.
Cita: "nthn"If it is irregular round, like an ancient coin, then I can get a close circle around it. If it has anything else, like octagon, or something like that, I can get exact.
I think I've managed to get it now. I just forgot to save.................................................................
I can crop backgrounds if you PM me with the pictures.
I'll send PM for your help too. Need it quickly as registration closing today.
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