What is this section: "* Tokens * - (TO DELETE)" really there for?
Is section supposed to be deleted, are there tokens supposed to be deleted (why they still are there anyway )
And above else - what makes token so bad that it should be deleted? I have seen there medals, medaillons, tourist tokens and I failed to see any pattern.
Cita: "Jarcek"What is this section: "* Tokens * - (TO DELETE)" really there for?
Only Xavier can delete these tokens as at least 1 member has entered them to his/her collection. Therefore the team member moves the page to this category and every once in a while Xavier deletes them.
Most of the stuff that gets shoved in there are:
1) medal and medallions. Both commemorative and art medals. There was a decision to not catalog these.
2) elongated cents. The decision was made to not catalog them. Not official issues, most people view them as damaged coins, and there really isn't much value to cataloging them.
3) poorly documented tokens. No pictures, no text, no description.
To keep tokens out of the to delete section I always make sure to take a good picture, describe the design and transcribe any text. Then I try to find it in a catalog and make sure to attribute it. A generic piece of metal is just that, a token I can attribute to a town and a time period is a historical artifact. If I know what it was used for all the better.
Cita: "jadejackal"Most of the stuff that gets shoved in there are:
1) medal and medallions. Both commemorative and art medals. There was a decision to not catalog these.
Really? I recently took some commemorative city anniversary medals out again and the referee said they will surely not be deleted in any case.
There are really lots of them in the token section.
Wait, so you guys don't remember the time a French team member decided to go on a small rampage and delete several hundred pages, causing several good members to leave the site?
I understand deleting maybe buttons, pins, or even Olympic medals, but we should refrain from deleting anything.
Kenny
- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.
I've tried my best to organize the section, but as some members have mentioned, "it is not a first priority." Management of the section is very time consuming, not to mention very unrewarding
Kenny
- Verifying your Asian and British-territorial coins everyday with the best quality photos and the best information.
I don't like medals so I don't collect them. But they are indeed a part of numismatics and a lot of people do collect them. So I can live with the fact that they are a part of the catalog. They are not tokens, so I'm in favor of the suggestion of Carlos55 to make a section for medals separate from tokens.
As long as there isn't any medal in the catalog you can rule them out, but the fact is that a lot of medals are already in it, so a way back is very difficult. As KennyG already said, once you have allowed them and you're going to delete them afterwards, some good members will be disappointed/frustrated/angry and might leave the community for ever, like it happened in the past after a team member was overzealous and deleted a great part of the token section. That's something we definitely have to avoid from happening again.
Cita: "KennyG"I've tried my best to organize the section, but as some members have mentioned, "it is not a first priority." Management of the section is very time consuming, not to mention very unrewarding
Keny,
I do appreciate all your efforts. I know how had you have been working on it because I have contributed a lot of tokens. I just wanted to let you know.
Cita: "jadejackal"Most of the stuff that gets shoved in there are:
1) medal and medallions. Both commemorative and art medals. There was a decision to not catalog these.
2) elongated cents. The decision was made to not catalog them. Not official issues, most people view them as damaged coins, and there really isn't much value to cataloging them.
3) poorly documented tokens. No pictures, no text, no description.
To keep tokens out of the to delete section I always make sure to take a good picture, describe the design and transcribe any text. Then I try to find it in a catalog and make sure to attribute it. A generic piece of metal is just that, a token I can attribute to a town and a time period is a historical artifact. If I know what it was used for all the better.
On this issue I agree with number 2, even though I collect them, they are clearly exonumia. Number 1, I don't know why they are excluded, since medals are part of numismatics; and o number 3, I partially agree that if a token has a poor picture and is poorly documented it probably should be removed, but if either poorly documented or it only has a poor picture it can be amended and kept. I make this last argument because in the caalog there are countless coins that do not have a picture and they are not deleted, why not do the same with the tokens until a good picture is provided by a member? Conversely,if it has a good picture but a bad description, then all the information about the token is in the picture.
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