Yes folks...type a and b are now recorded for all too many listings. The collecting world is shocked and annoyed that they now have to look at the edge of their coins to attribute them as a variety when only Belgians care...the belgian menace rises...europe.weeps. A COMPROMISE POSSIBLE? In a shocking display of logic and purpose, the UN proposes an additional line in the catalog for collectors who have tried to care but do not care about the whole A vs B controversy. THE NUMISTA WORLD WAITS NEWS OF A COMPROMISE. UN hopeful to finally be thought relevant...
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What so you mean? You don't like varieties and don't care if there are two different types of the same coin?
Do you feel the same about, let's say, open vs. close 4? Or coin vs medal alignment? Or is it just about the edge writing?
I feel your pain, I also noticed that pretty much every single coin in the catalog has years and mintmarks registered. The collecting world is shocked and annoyed that they have to read microscopic text and symbols to attribute them as variations when only [some people] care. I expect the UN to also propose a suggestion to solve this issue for collectors who tried but do not care about the whole year&mintmark controversy.
No but I am quite serious, personally I find the variants of a coin (including edge lettering orientation) far more significant than year and mintmark. I'm well aware I'm quite alone in this viewpoint but who decides which attributes are relevant and which isn't?
If you don't like the edge lettering variants I suggest you do what everybody else does and just ignore the attributes you don't like and let everybody else choose for themselves.
Im not bothered either way. I used to collect Malaysian coins by edge orientation. Lots of older European coins were organised by edge varieties. It was just very late. I had been reading the "onion" and I had recalled reading on other threads about AB edges. What provoked the whole thing was listing my Spanish coins and finding listings that had a single date and said types A and B exist..and then the very next listing would have a date and say type A and then a second line of the same date would say type B . Inconsistency like that is annoying and I hope the powers that be here at Numista will fix this to make it standard.
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Discussions have often come to the conclusion that we don't need these extra lines. It has always been said that the lines will disappear because most people don't care. But single referees will always do what they think is best from their own perspective and referring to the wishes of single collectors over the majority and over the consistency with the rest of Numista and ignoring the arguments that have been made before.
To the people who still think the others could just "ignore" the additional lines:
No, we can't.
If you ignore all years, you will still see which coin types you have and which you don't have because every coin listing will show you the corresponding symbol near the coin.
This does not work with additional lines. We will not see any more in a swap list if we already have a coin if the swapper puts it in the other edge type line.
Cita: "androl"To the people who still think the others could just "ignore" the additional lines:
No, we can't.
If you ignore all years, you will still see which coin types you have and which you don't have because every coin listing will show you the corresponding symbol near the coin.
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No it doesn't. It will show me if I have a coin of that type but not all variants. You can ignore the edge lettering just as well as I can ignore the years and mintmarks. And if you had it your way you'd also make it really hard for the people who do collect edge lettering variants.
I know I won't have numista tailored after my needs and I'm not asking for that, I'm just questioning why it should be tailored for some people instead of putting everything in there.
Cita: "androl"If you ignore all years, you will still see which coin types you have and which you don't have because every coin listing will show you the corresponding symbol near the coin.
No it doesn't. It will show me if I have a coin of that type but not all variants.
That is what I wanted to say. If you only collect types and don't care about years, you will still see which types you own and which you don't. If someone has the same type of coin in his swap list, but from a different year, you see the symbol that you already have that coin type but not this year. So you know that you don't need the coin.
Now try to do this with different edge types of one year.
And that's what I tried to say, yes it will show me if I have a type but it will not show me if I have for example both edge letter orientations for that type or just one of them, or any other variant. My trick is to use the "I want this coin" feature and go into the coin page and check which it is I want every time I find it on a swap page, until I have all variants. In a similar way you can use the "I don't want this coin" when you have everything you collect
I admit it's cumbersome and this discussion along with the other thread about proof coins shows there's a need for more advanced filtering capabilities, but I don't think reducing the information in the database is the solution.
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