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Added two more sections! B)
Catalogue administrator
U 21-30 to make of the place but on time lost.
Section U OUT - - - -
BOINC
I take Section V 1 to 10 DONE 8) _________________
BOINC
Many thanks guys for such an incredible work on Romanian catalogue. There are no more pictures that need crop in this catalogue so your work is appreciated since we have an improved catalogue.
Section V 21-30
DONE Section V : OUT
BOINC
Many thanks!! <:D You are tireless worker!!!
Catalogue administrator
I would not perhaps go until ZZZ :D
I take Section W 1-10 DONE
W 11-20 DONE
W 21-30 DONE Section W : OUT
BOINC
Many thanks! I will add more sections today. <:D
Catalogue administrator
I take X 1 to 10 DONE
Please, tell us when there is not any more
For those who would like to put on there : GIMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXlnoYsmxTU
BOINC
This will take a long time. There are hundreds more.
Catalogue administrator
I take X 11-20 DONE
X 21-30 DONE Section X OUT (X10 X22 unchanged)
I take Y 1-10 DONE
Y 11-20 DONE (Y 20 unchanged)
BOINC
Great great thanks! :) Your work is truly amazing here. <:D
Catalogue administrator
Do not insist, you will not discourage me !:D
:love: They search volunteers :love:
I take Y 21-30 DONE Section Y OUT
I take Z 11-20 DONE ( Z 20 inchanged)
I take Z 21-30 DONE
Section Z OUT prepared following the alphabet  : § & @ . . .
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UP
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Oh! :8D Few days I did not looked here and now - wow! Many thanks!

I will update the thread later today!
Catalogue administrator
<:D Update.
Catalogue administrator
I will take entire B2 section. I will start now. (I skipped A2 just in a case someone else started it already)
Well I take A2 1 to 10 DONE
A2 11 to 20 DONE
BOINC
Section B2 is all done except coin number 5. Can someone else do that coin? I can do only circular coins. Thanks
OK I take B2-5 and A2 21-30 DONE ( A2-27 unchenged)
Sections A2 & B2 "OUT"
BOINC
Many thanks. Will add some more this evening. <:D
Catalogue administrator
Section B2 that I worked on had four Suriname coins in it. I cropped all four coins nicely and I wrote " Photos Edited" on the field designated for explanation of your work, but all four got rejected by the refery Chilian. He rejected them saying he does not see any improvement.

This is either a bug or he doesn't know that all coins should have white background. I kind of got mad but I wrote him nice and polite message asking what does he mean by "I don't see any improvement"


Jarcek do you have any comments/suggestions?
:. Morning, and I have to get mad. It won't be a nice day.

I will write him a message. :|
Catalogue administrator
Not that I want to dismiss anything of the good and hard work you've done here but the problem with many of the pictures that were cropped in this project , especially if they come from world of coins, is they are pictures for ants. If you crop them it's like polishing a turd, looks a bit nicer but it's still crap.
So I can see why referees wouldn't always agree with the improvement and would rather like to see a new better picture.
I noticed problems with small ones, but that is not this case..
Catalogue administrator
I will start adding only countries I can accept, or countries with referees I know in order to avoid such misunderstandings in future. :|
Catalogue administrator
I take C2 1 to 10
EDIT : Done
312 pays dans ma collection
Billets à l'échange sur colnect
Excuse me, I do not speak English (except with Google translate)

Avant de commencer les modifications de photos de pièces j'ai pris connaissance sur Numisdoc/Documentation de l'article sur les photos et au vu des différentes tailles existantes dans le catalogue j'ai cru comprendre que la taille 318x327 pixels était recommandée :


En fait il n'y a pas de norme, et après des modifications refusées car avec réduction, je ne modifie plus l'échelle, seulement la taille de l'entourage par "coller dans nouvelle image" avec GIMP.

well or iznogood ?
BOINC
I guess it is better to leave them as big as they are, and not make them smaller.
Catalogue administrator
I take C 11-20 DONE
C2 21-30 DONE Section C2 : OUT
BOINC
E2 deleted
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
By the way, Suriname referee Chilian just wrote me back a very nice message apologizing for rejecting my photos. He said he doesn't know what was he thinking :) Message was really nice and I am sure it was just a mistake.

I will crop those 4 coins again now.

Also I was cropping photos on my own lately (not from the lists that you guys work on, but I choose coins myself) Just trying to tell you yo guys are not alone. :) Keep good job everybody. Thanks
I take D2 1-10 DONE C2 OUT
D2 11-20 DONE
D2 21-30 DONE Section D2  : OUT
BOINC
May I ask for one EXTRA? :°

Catalogue administrator
BOINC
Merci CREPOSUC.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
I take E2 1-10 DONE (E2 10 unmodified) - E2 11-20 DONE - E2 21-30 DONE - Section E2 OUT
i TAKE F2 1 - 10 DONE - F2 11-20 DONE
BOINC
Up. :)
I take F2 21-30 DONE Section F2 OUT

I take G2 1 to 10 DONE - G2 11 to 21 DONE - G2 22 to 30 DONE - Section G2 OUT
BOINC
H2 1-10 done, working on H2 11-20.
No need to claim, only to update.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
I take H2 21 to 30 DONE

Section H2 OUT
BOINC
I was still working on on H. I still need 17-20. Now the links are gone. :| Is there any way you can get them back? You can PM them to me.
They're still available in the French side, don't worry!
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
OK, I got them all done. I am taking J2 1-10 now.

EDIT: J2 1-10 Done.
i take reserve  : i2 1 TO 30 1-10 DONE (internet restored) i2 1-20 DONE I2 21-30 DONE

Section I2 OUT
BOINC
Many thanks! Added two more sections. Have a lot of work, as some coins I gathered are already done and I have to sort it through.
Catalogue administrator
To make J2 rounded to 30 I'll add 7 files.

EDIT: already added 6 files, and 7th will be added this afternoon (CET).
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
J2 30 released
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
I take J2 11-20 DONE
I TAKE K2 1 to 10 DONE K2 11-20 DONE K2 21-30 DONE (working on the rain !)
BOINC
I will take section L2, items 1 to 15.

UPDATE : Section L2, 1 to 15 done. I will take the rest of L2 as well (items 16 to 30).
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
I will add more sections today evening. You are awesome! <:D
Catalogue administrator
Section L2 complete.
I didn't modify the two below pages since the images are already cropped.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74216.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55016.html

Added missing description and lettering for
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34000.html
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
Cita: "ms_hannibal"​I didn't modify the two below pages since the images are already cropped.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74216.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55016.html
​Added missing description and lettering for
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34000.html

​I take them
BOINC
Cita: "CREPOSUC"
Cita: "ms_hannibal"​I didn't modify the two below pages since the images are already cropped.
​​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74216.html
​​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces55016.html
​​Added missing description and lettering for
​​https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces34000.html

​I take them
:O
[French]Autant la 2ème est mal détourée et il ne l'a pas compris, autant la 1ère ne semble pas en avoir besoin (ou bien j'aurais mal vu). Quant à la 3ème, il a rajouté la description qui faisait défaut. Il ne manque plus que la validation du référent.[/French]

Oh, wait... Wasn't the last file inverted between obverse and reverse?
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Sorry chomp-master. I didn't get what you have written in french. Is there something I missed on the entries I have mentioned.
Yes for the third entry, the Obverse had a reverse image and vice versa. So I put in the cropped images with a request to correct it.
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
It seems the 2nd one was badly cropped as not really in a white background.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Cita: "chomp-master"​It seems the 2nd one was badly cropped as not really in a white background.
​Thanks chomp-master. I have now edited it and submitted the change for verification.
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
too late, done
excuse me, I do offline, BOINC runs at the same time, this frees memory
BOINC
Little late, but I added new sections! <:D
Catalogue administrator
I will take complete section Oxigen. Sounds interesting!! :)

Update - Oxigen done except for the below. I am really struggling with irregular shapes. :( Can someone please let me know how these can be handled?

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces51406.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces74408.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces66271.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces69156.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces40818.html

Meanwhile I will take section N2 as well.
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
I take M2 1-10 DONE M2 11-20 DONE M2 21-30 DONE
BOINC
Section N2 complete. Didn't change the below since they already seem to be cropped with white background. In case any changes are required, please do let me know. Apologies if I am missing anything.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53631.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53630.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53629.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53627.html

I am attaching a pic for the first in the above list :

That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
I will be away since tommorow. If you want to claim some bigger part, say a word, since tommorow please check updated French side.
Catalogue administrator
I TAKE O2 17-18-21-25-26 and P2 1 to 10
BOINC
ms_hannibal - oops, some slipped through 8~
Catalogue administrator
Cita: "Jarcek"​ms_hannibal - oops, some slipped through 8~
​Can you please confirm which ones?
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
Cita: "CREPOSUC"I TAKE O2 17-18-21-25-26 and P2 1 to 10
​Hi Creposuc. Do you use Photoshop for the irregular shaped ones?
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
Cita: "ms_hannibal"
Cita: "Jarcek"​ms_hannibal - oops, some slipped through 8~
​​Can you please confirm which ones?
​I meant those Turkish, which have been already cropped.
Catalogue administrator
Cita: "Jarcek"​​I meant those Turkish, which have been already cropped.
​Oh, I thought I missed some :) . I am currently trying my hand at Photoshop for learning how to crop irregular shapes, till I am able to do that, I will take up circular ones ;) .
That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history.
- Aldous Huxley
Cita: "ms_hannibal"​ Do you use Photoshop for the irregular shaped ones?


​No, with GIMP 2.8 is free !

O2 finish P2 1-10 DONE P2 11-20 DONE P2 21-36 DONE
BOINC
Cita: "CREPOSUC"
Cita: "ms_hannibal"​ Do you use Photoshop for the irregular shaped ones?


​​No, with GIMP 2.8 is free !

​O2 finish P2 1-10 DONE P2 11-20 DONE P2 21-36 DONE
​For sure Gimp 2.8 is a great bit of software, especially when cropping UK pre-decimal threepence and the decimal 20p and 50p. However, it can be quite time consuming and while I am delighted with the results (for example https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces86939.html) it would be great if anyone out there would like to help out with cropping any of the many other 50p images that need tidying up :)
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
If I was not so darn busy I should learn more about my magic black box. But I can barely put images up not less crop yet. Gave me CNC line code I could help. But with my spelling and lack of skill I would make more work for you guys
It is, what it is, or is it.
several possible methods with GIMP as the starting image
for informations see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXlnoYsmxTU
I prepared screenshots

for information Section Q2 DONE out
BOINC
French side updated. Added special request before duplicate deletion.

EDIT: as concerned referee on holidays, can you wait before requesting the image change?
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Cropping with GIMP 2.8 (with approximate translations for tools)
(thanks chomp-master)

Round coin
Zoom the pic to the maximum of allowed space [Display] [Zoom]
1- < Elliptic selection > tool
2- Adjust to the coin listel
3- Menu [ COPY ]
4- Menu [ PASTE AS ] [ new image ]
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/57840281f0c5b.png
5- < Filling > tool, white colour.
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/578402bed3968.png

ENDING for all methods
To be tried if useful and compare:
• Menu [Colours] [Luminosity-Contrast]
• Menu [Filters] - [Enhancement] - [Sharpen]
If necessary : < rotate > tool
Final step: Menu [File] [Export As…] « xxx-M.png » in special folder where « xxx.png » original is.

Irregular coin (two methods adopted)
Preliminary steps :
1- Frame the coin : < Rectangular selection > tool and [Image] [Trim following the selection]
2- Zoom to the pic like for round coins

A method for probably uniform background
1- bleach the surrounding part of the pic using the < FILLING > tool, starting by the pic borders (1), and by the farthest and clearest parts of the pic (2)
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/5784030810cf2.png
2- getting to the closest of the coin, the colour to delete may be found inside the coin and make white spots, please cancel if needed [Edit] [Cancel]
3- zoom to 400 or 500 %
4- take the < pencil > tool on "Hardness", choose the size to erase the remnants and follow slowly the coin listel by small sections, making errors easier to cancel.
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/57840334b89ba.png
5- reduce to see the result … and go to the common ENDING step.

B method for a patchwork background
1- Zoom the pic as explained above
2- Using the < path > tool, mark the limits of the coin
https://static-numista.com/forum/images/5784035d169bc.png
3- Lock the last dot using < Select from the path >
4- Click on [Select] [Invert]
5- Click on [Edit] [Erase]
6- Bleach the new black background using the < Filling > tool
7- [Select] [None] and go to the common ENDING step.

Other methods possible exist
For example : bleach exterior of coin by sectors with the < path > tool.
BOINC
I take R2 1 to 10 DONE R2 11-20 DONE. R2 21-30 DONE
BOINC
After this last series I'll make a selection of 24 coins to crop. If Jarcek won't add one before me, this would be T2.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
Just add it on French side, and I will paste it here. :)
Catalogue administrator
T2 ready.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.
I take S2 1 to 10 DONE. S2 11 to 20 DONE. S2 21-30 DONE

Section S2 OUT T2 1 to 10 DONE T2 11-24 DONE T2 OUT
il en manquait, c'est réparé :°
BOINC
Many thanks! <:D
Catalogue administrator
I will add new sections tonight or tommorow morning. :`
Catalogue administrator
Quite late morning, but it must be morning somewhere! :°
Catalogue administrator
U2 1 to 10 DONE U2 11-20 DONE (U2 14 unchanged) U2 21-30 DONE U2 OUT
the suite is available . . . ;) 8)
BOINC
Section V2 1 to 10 DONE
BOINC
Section X2 #17-19 done
Section X2 #15-25 done
Section V2 OUT.
Section X2 OUT.
Section W2 OUT. FINISH
BOINC
I now updated the first post, it is still quite long, but lets make it little shorter, still have a lot of countries to check. <:D
Catalogue administrator
Bonjour,
ça va peut-être poser problème côté français
Hello, it might be a problem on the side of french to transcribe ;(
I take Grenada (2) Guadeloupe (3) Tatarstan (1) Tonkin: (1) Sharjah: (1) Carthage:(1) Livonia and Estonia:(1) Done.

I take Cocos-Keeling Islands Done. Celtic-Britain Done Cilician-Armenia Done
BOINC
x. I forgot to think about that.
Catalogue administrator
I added more countries for solving.
Catalogue administrator
Fiji done
I take : Lundy, Livonia, Liechtenstein, Liege, Lesotho, Hispania(ancient), Hunnic-Empire =11 in progress . . .
BOINC
Removed Fiji and added first "big" country - Portugal.
Catalogue administrator
Cape Verde: Done!
It was an accident...z) But Marshall Islands - done.
Thanks both of you!
Catalogue administrator
By the way, Turkmenistan in the list - once. It's all done.
Done:
Lundy: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18004.html
Livonia: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces62190.html
Malawi: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces61060.html
Senegal: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces90937.html
French Oceania: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces75703.html
French West Africa:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42631.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42632.html
French Somaliland:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42629.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces42630.html
Tibet: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces69103.html
Lebanon: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces62574.html
Hong Kong:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17260.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15289.html
Czech Republic: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces84581.html
Dahomey:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43820.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43823.html
Djibouti: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces73924.html
Zambia: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces87884.html
Yemenite states: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces89495.html
Aruba: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces65022.html
Ascension Island: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces83498.html
Austrian States:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces79147.html
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces70593.html
Bangladesh: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces41802.html

(Bahrain: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces65303.html - extra, somebody already did)

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