Great Britain: Token Essex - Hornchurch - Halfpenny

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Hello.

I wondering if you like too add this halfpenny token to the database.

ESSEX HORNCHURCH HALFPENNY TOKEN

more details:
http://www.timelineauctions.com/lot/essex-hornchurch-token-halfpenny/13416/

http://webapps.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/explorer/index.php?oid=164688

pdf with some details about this token (page 14) - so it was coined in or after 1795

http://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital%20BNJ/pdfs/2004_BNJ_74_13.pdf
Hello and welcome to Numista. I would suggest the first thing to do would be to contact the website and request permission to use their images (if we don't do that then we risk infringing copyright). Once you have received their permission we can get them added as an Approved Source and if you send me a PM I can look up the token and find out the D&H catalogue reference.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
This should be listed under England NOT Great Britain - as England is the constituent country that Essex is located in.

Aidan.
I have the token - i will add scans today.
Ok, I scanned two of my english tokens with are not found in the numista data base.

Please used the pictures for the specimen.

Halfpenny Token Hornchurch




Halfpenny Token Duke of York with two dates: 1795 and 1799 - both sides wich halfpenny inscription




http://imgur.com/a/MOHAR
Cita: "BCNumismatics"​This should be listed under England NOT Great Britain - as England is the constituent country that Essex is located in.

​Aidan.
​Hello Aidan, you are quite correct that the county of Essex is located within the country of England which is itself a constituent part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. However, for the purposes of listing coins in the Numista catalogue, the country of England is solely used to list coinage that was issued prior to the Acts of Union of 1707. Coinage that was issued for circulation after 1707 is listed under United Kingdom and ordinarily, token issues would be listed under a separate 'country' listing entitled "* Tokens *". There is an exception for Conder tokens which, due to a severe shortage of coinage of the realm towards the end of the 18th century, circulated as currency and were generally accepted by workers & merchants alike. For this reason, Conders have their own section within the UK catalogue and the widely accepted reference source for these is the Provincial Token Coinage of the 18th Century by Dalton & Hamer.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
Currency tokens of the British Isles should be listed under the constituent country - except for the Evasions,which are anonymous issues.

It defies belief to see currency tokens from Ireland listed under 'Great Britain'.

Aidan.
Again Aidan, I can't find fault, you are quite correct. We have previously identified Irish Conders within the UK catalogue and these have been moved to their own Conder section within the Ireland catalogue. If you know of other Irish Conders that should not be in the UK catalogue then you can submit a modification request or if you want to PM me with the details, I can do it for you.
Just because you can't see it ... doesn't mean it isn't there - Anon.

Former coin and banknote catalogue referee.
It is not only 18th. Century currency tokens that should NOT be listed under 'Great Britain', but the 17th. Century & 19th. Century currency tokens as well.

They should be transferred to their constituent country listings as well.

The same thing applies to the Farthing currency tokens that were struck after 1820.

Aidan.

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