Spitsbergen in the new countries list

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Hi to all
As coins for Spitsbergen were issued for the area under the Soviet jurisdiction and by the USSR ministry:

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%A8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0

(sorry it is in Russian only at the wiki)

so it has a sense to move it in the section "Russia" like Tatarstan and so on
mumi numi
It is logical.
The area of the Arktikugol area on Spitzbergen was indeed leased to the Soviet Union. These tokens were never authorised by the Norwegian government. That these ever showed up in a Krause catalogue made them famous, but they are just tokens.

It does indeed make sense to place them under Russian tokens. Spitzbergen is not even a Norwegian name. The Norwegians refer to the islands as Svalbard.
Cita: "jokinen"​The area of the Arktikugol area on Spitzbergen was indeed leased to the Soviet Union. These tokens were never authorised by the Norwegian government. That these ever showed up in a Krause catalogue made them famous, but they are just tokens.

​It does indeed make sense to place them under Russian tokens. Spitzbergen is not even a Norwegian name. The Norwegians refer to the islands as Svalbard.





​No not tokens, people used it for buying there
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%A8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0 - here is written even that
"Norwegian goverment was protested when second emission of these trade coins contained "Russian Federation" on them within the map of Svalbard (Spitzbergen) (on the revers)" - so it was agreed by both sides with previous emissions I guess.

But that should be moved from real country under Russia as sub territory, indeed
mumi numi
Cita: "akadotour"
Cita: "jokinen"​The area of the Arktikugol area on Spitzbergen was indeed leased to the Soviet Union. These tokens were never authorised by the Norwegian government. That these ever showed up in a Krause catalogue made them famous, but they are just tokens.
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​​It does indeed make sense to place them under Russian tokens. Spitzbergen is not even a Norwegian name. The Norwegians refer to the islands as Svalbard.





​​No not tokens, people used it for buying there
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%A8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0 - here is written even that
​"Norwegian goverment was protested when second emission of these trade coins contained "Russian Federation" on them within the map of Svalbard (Spitzbergen) (on the revers)" - so it was agreed by both sides with previous emissions I guess.

​But that should be moved from real country under Russia as sub territory, indeed
​To me given the backstory they still seem more token than currency in the traditional sense. You can buy things in places with tokens as long as the tokens are acknowledged to have a value.
Cita: "cncote10"
Cita: "akadotour"

Cita: "jokinen"​The area of the Arktikugol area on Spitzbergen was indeed leased to the Soviet Union. These tokens were never authorised by the Norwegian government. That these ever showed up in a Krause catalogue made them famous, but they are just tokens.
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​​​It does indeed make sense to place them under Russian tokens. Spitzbergen is not even a Norwegian name. The Norwegians refer to the islands as Svalbard.
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​​​No not tokens, people used it for buying there
​​https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D0%A8%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B0 - here is written even that
​​"Norwegian goverment was protested when second emission of these trade coins contained "Russian Federation" on them within the map of Svalbard (Spitzbergen) (on the revers)" - so it was agreed by both sides with previous emissions I guess.
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​​But that should be moved from real country under Russia as sub territory, indeed

​​To me given the backstory they still seem more token than currency in the traditional sense. You can buy things in places with tokens as long as the tokens are acknowledged to have a value.
​It will be too long story if to start to check what is more token or less (and countries list then will be much thinner:) It's up to mr. Krause. But it has a sense to move Spitzbergen to the Russian section anyway, just for getting more order, nothing more.
mumi numi
Yes! Let's list everything under russia! Lets list Syria and Ukraine under russia as well! Honestly, I don't even understand why USSR is listed under russia??? Why not under Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia or 10 other EQUAL (as they stated it) members of the Soviet UNION???
Gordon Gekko: Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market.
Cita: "Donkey"​Yes! Let's list everything under russia! Lets list Syria and Ukraine under russia as well! Honestly, I don't even understand why USSR is listed under russia??? Why not under Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine, Belarus, Georgia or 10 other EQUAL (as they stated it) members of the Soviet UNION???
It was just a question of optimization of the countries list, nothing more :) no panic
I guess historically USSR is ok to be put in the "Russia" section
mumi numi
No panic. ;) Just trying to make a point.
Gordon Gekko: Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy? It's the free market.
You're right to say these tokens (from a private company, but for effective circulation on the concerned settlements) are of Russian ascent as made by Artikugol (in English Arctic Coal). However please do not forget that the Spitsbergen island, as part of the Svalbard archipelago, is de jure a territory of Norway with specil agreements on foreign settlements. For me, if we would be able to have the technical possibility of having double entries for a single listing, it would be under both countries but with different names. Be patient for now, I've added this issue to our bimonthly talks planned on Thursday.
Administrateur du catalogue, référent de nombreuses nations antiques et de la Lorraine.
Catalogue administrator, numerous Antique nations and Lorraine referee.

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