Managing separate collections on the same profile [Risolto]

This is my biggest pain at the moment as I have 3 more or less separate collections. The possibility of managing few separate collections on the same profile would be a huge enhancement to the website. All other collecting websites do have this feature, which is absolutely vital. At the moment this issue is usually 'solved' by collectors using the 'separate Numista profile for each collection' method. I hope that one day this feature will finally be available.

Here is an example from the stampworld.com:

I think it will be hard to implement this feature now, this is why nothing has been done in this direction. Probably nothing will be done until the next major change of Numista, if it will be one and if will imply the change of database design and website layout design.

I agree to both. It will be good to have possibility to use more customized lists and this can take numista on higher level but implementation of this could be hard right now ;(

This would be one of the biggest things that I want. Customized lists (or categories) that I can make. Such as "Silver", "Swap List", etc..

Any news on the implementation of this possibility? Or should I still start inserting my secondary collection under a second ("illegal") profile not to mess up the statistics of my main collection?

I would LOVE for something like this to happen....
If you look at my profile, you'll only see PM circulating coins, but over time some "other" coins have landed in my hands that I would like to catalog but can't as it would affect my dashboard.

Loruca.

Not planned for now but will be discussed during next meeting.

Thanks. Please keep us updated so we can find the best way to manage several collections.

Agreed.
And it is certainly not the first time this is asked for.
Hope Xavier has some time for that.

Any news on this possibilty?

Otherwise, where can I ask permission to make a second account? Mixing a regional (Europe) and thematic (animals/plants) collection in one account is too big of a mess!
" Terms of service
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4. Except as authorized by Numista, you can not create or have multiple accounts on the site.
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After the humongous update that happened not too long ago with values, this may take a while I'd expect.
(p.s. I use the new version. it didn't take long for me to get used to it and see the positive sides to it)

But I'd still love to see this done.

Basically, yes but no precise date fixed yet. Last discussion on this point was during yesterday's meeting.
It may involve combining with other improvements then first check impacts on other part of the site.

@BramVB: You can send a PM to Xavier or Jarcek or myself regarding your second account.

This would be wonderful.
Right now, I have my own collection.
I am also accumulating a set of modern countries for a neighbor child. She has Down's syndrome and it is easier for her to memorize geography if she has a tangible item (such as a coin) to associate with each country. I try to carry a paper list, since I can't make a second account without permission.
I have a niece and nephew who are too young to use the internet without an adult. If I entered their collection into Numista, that would be another account under my IP address and would look like a violation of the user agreement.
I was going to ask for permission to create these additional accounts since they would look like I have multiples (same computer doing all the logging on), although they would be for different people.
Being able to switch views while I coin shop would be so much better.
Thanks

Is this something we can expect sometime soon?

LRC

Cita: "loruca"​Is this something we can expect sometime soon?
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​LRC

Well, the good news is that the proposal got accepted. It means that sooner or later it will be implemented!

Definitely interesting.

Bump?
And I'll link this other proposal which seems to be pretty related:
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic75646.html

In theory, this idea should be super simple to implement. A new domain (i.e. table) for a list, an initial entry for each user in the domain, and foreign key all existing coins to this entry. Couple min job to set it all up and you have a concept of list/collection with existing data migrated. Remaining functionality (additional lists, adding/moving/removing coin to a list) and the front end updates could then be built up gradually.

Me would also like to separate token collection separately from coins. Please keep in mind that many times I swap at the same time coins and tokens, hence there should be possibility to add both to the swap list.

Bump!

Does anyone know if there is anything being done to implement this great idea?

I regret to inform you, that Xavier wanted to do this now, but moved it after I pointed out some problematic stuff (unrelated to this) that needed solving..

Cita: "Jarcek"​I regret to inform you, that Xavier wanted to do this now, but moved it after I pointed out some problematic stuff (unrelated to this) that needed solving..

​ Thanks for the update. Can you let us know if this feature is going to be added in the near future or will it be some time until it is implemented?

Near future it is. If not for technical things, Xavier would be on it.

There is one other new feature that is in final stages though.

Cita: "Jarcek"​Near future it is. If not for technical things, Xavier would be on it.
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​There is one other new feature that is in final stages though.

​Yay!!!!

Great !!!

Hope there will also be a possibility to join up two accounts ... as I just spent a few evening inserting my whole secondary collection

Cita: "loruca"​

Cita: "Jarcek"​Near future it is. If not for technical things, Xavier would be on it.
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​​There is one other new feature that is in final stages though.

​​Yay!!!!

​Hallelujah!

Will we still be able to view all our coins in one "total" collection as well as in the sub collections?

I dont know the technicalities, Xavier just mentioned it.

Cita: "CassTaylor"​

Cita: "loruca"​
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Cita: "Jarcek"​Near future it is. If not for technical things, Xavier would be on it.
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​​​There is one other new feature that is in final stages though.

​​​Yay!!!!

​​Hallelujah!
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​Will we still be able to view all our coins in one "total" collection as well as in the sub collections?

This is what I thought, especially regarding the ''view your collection'' map​.

Cita: "Jarcek"​Near future it is. If not for technical things, Xavier would be on it.
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​There is one other new feature that is in final stages though.

​What is the "other new feature that is in the final stages"

Don't be cruel by telling us there's something coming and then leaving us waiting to see what it is.

Addition of prices from auctions by users. Auctions are matched with numista coin pages and it is up to user to match year and grade, once done, it will take coin price from auction into account on numista page.

Not really useful for ordinary coins, as most have prices already, but for less ordinary coins, it should help. Currently it works with Ebay (Ebay has its own API for such things) but there are plans to include more auction sites.

Cita: "Jarcek"​ Addition of prices from auctions by users. Auctions are matched with numista coin pages and it is up to user to match year and grade, once done, it will take coin price from auction into account on numista page.
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​Not really useful for ordinary coins, as most have prices already, but for less ordinary coins, it should help. Currently it works with Ebay (Ebay has its own API for such things) but there are plans to include more auction sites.

​WOOOHOOOO!!!!
Excellent!
Excellent!

Cita: "Jarcek"​ Addition of prices from auctions by users. Auctions are matched with numista coin pages and it is up to user to match year and grade, once done, it will take coin price from auction into account on numista page.
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​Not really useful for ordinary coins, as most have prices already, but for less ordinary coins, it should help. Currently it works with Ebay (Ebay has its own API for such things) but there are plans to include more auction sites.

​Hi Jarek,
Could you please make a separate thread on that ? It is very interesting and will deserve some info.
Thanks.

I just did, but I am little busy, so it is just a placeholder.

Hello,

As explained by Jarek, I would like to start this feature soon. Here is how I see it:

• You can define collections in your account settings, including 1 default collection
  
• When entering a coin, if you have more than 1 collection, you will be able to select which collection it belongs to. This will be available only in the "new" way to register coins, which was introduced together with values.
  
• When looking at your coins (on any page), the collection will be displayed next to the other data (grade, comments, etc.)
  
• On the "My Coins" dashboard, you will be able to filter the statistics based on the collections and based on weither the coins are for swap or not (currently you see statistics only for the coins not for swap).
  By default, you will see all the collection (coins not for swap only) and a recap of your collections (number of coins and countries in each collection)
  
• On the "My Coins" list of coins, you will be able to filter by collection
  
• You will be able to export either all your coins or by collection.
  

Would you like to see any other feature related to the multiple collections?
I already took note of the request to be able to merge multiple accounts, for the people who currently manage multiple collections with multiple accounts.

Also interesting might be the possibility to mark several "collections" as swapable. I can imagine that you have coins you have that are only swapable for specific other coins (eg. silver for silver) or you have a two separate collections with each a specific set of doubles. Also I can opt to swap away mcoins from my secondary collection if in return I can get coins for my main collection.

For example:
- Default collection (in my case European coins)
- Nature collection (but I'd like to mark it as a swaplist in case you have coins for my main collection)
- Normal swaplist (swaplist 1)
- €2 CC swaplist (swaplist 2, will only swap for other €2 CC or other European high nominal circulating commemoratives)
- silver swaplist (swaplist 3, will only swap for other silver I need)
- the really special swaplist (swaplist 4, here are some really special coins that when in a normal swaplist get selected by almost every swap, without the other part hardly ever having anything of interest ... these I only want to put visible when

In this example I'd like to mark the first two as "collection" and the last five as "swaplist". Like that I can see the statistics for my collection, but if somebody offers me intersting coins they can also see my nature coins in my swaplist and easily check for anything of interest. If marking one set of coins as both collection and swapable is not possible, there should be an option to change the setting for it manually (also in case one day I decide to dump one collection, to prevent me having to change all coins individually to "for swap"). So instead of marking individual coins to "for exchange" (yes/no), they should be added to a specific list (collection or swaplist) that can then collectively be marked as collection or for exchange (or both?).

already thanks for the addition!

Hello,
Have the possibility to filter collections for the map also please.
Thanks.

Xavier one question over this part:
When entering a coin, if you have more than 1 collection, you will be able to select which collection it belongs to. This will be available only in the "new" way to register coins, which was introduced together with values.

I am lucky to live in Slovenia as an ex Yugoslavia republic. I am building up my collection of all Slovenian coins and tokens. Now, Slovenian origin may also mean that some coin/token was actually issued (or used) in Yugoslavia (before Slovenia went independent in 1991), but within borders of Slovenia as it is today (BTW - this is also an issue with other tokens from ex YU republics, because based on year of issue these should be included in Yugoslavia and not in Croatia for instance). As I am also building up Yugoslavian token collection, I wonder if I can have overlapping two collections (from a specific coin point of view):
- 1st collection: all Slovenian coins and tokens issued within borders of Slovenia as is today (and)
- 2nd collection (may also include coins/tokens from first collection): all coins and tokens issued in any other (lets say) YU-republics all the way up to 1991 (despite historically not all FYR were as such in certain time period).

I can imagine that more than one collection per coin is probably not an idea here and can represent certain tech-obstacles to implement, but in some cases as mine, it would be (not nice, but) good to have. I would also not go further than two sets/levels. In case more than one collection per coin would be possible, please disregard this comment.

Thank you on replying in advance...

For each separate collection it might be nice to have also separate rows of totals:



and so on...

Hello,
You may now manage multiple collections using a single Numista account

• You may define your collections in your account settings. Each collection has a name and a color. You should choose a default collection.
  
• When adding or modifying a coin in your collection, you should choose which collection it belongs to.
  
• When viewing your collection dashboard, you can choose to see the stats of any of your collections or all your coins (except the collection history, which always shows all the collections).
  
• When looking at your coins, the collection of each coins is shown.
  
• When looking at your coins, you may filter by collection.
  

Some notes in response to the comments above:

• You can manage whether a coin is for swap or not and its collection independently. A collection could be a swap list or or mix of coins for swap and not for swap.
  
• Each coin can belong only to one collection.
  
• Filter by collection is not implemented yet for the export
  
• The collection is not visible in the swap list of other users. Other users can see your collection only if you chose the option "Allow everyone to view my collection". In this case the collections are visible when people look at your coins (but still not in your swap list).
  
• Multiple collections are not available with the old collection layout.
  

WOOOOOOO!
MERCI!

Great !!! Can wait to explore the new possibilities.

Already my 2 collections:
- Europe (default), containing all my collection I had on this account
- Flora&Fauna (empty for now) to move my secondary account to (BramVB_bis)

@Xavier, is there a possibility for you to move my second account into that second collection?

Thanks Thanks Thanks

​Woohoo!! great new feature!!

Now my question: Is there a way to mark coins in a certain collection out of doing it manually one by one?

I mean, like to select a country to move cons to a collection, or a years lase, etc.

Already enjoying the new feature.
I only already noticed that the wishlist does not yet distinguish between separate collections. Some coins I only want for my main collection, some only for my secondary one and some even for both.

Any possibility to attach a wishlist to a specific collection?

And did I already say thanks for the new feature?

many thanks!

Thank you so much , that's wonderful !

I'm just starting to record my coins here so it's a perfect timing
4 sections for me:
-Franc
-World (i may further cut into eras like before and after 1945)
-Antique
-Maps

It will be very helpful in order to organize what was a randomly stored hoard for so many years.

Again thx Numista thx Xavier you rule

Wow! Super cool! This feature will make my collecting life sooooo much easier!

Great new feature, thanks!

Hello,

Excellent new feature.

It would be really nice to have the possibility to define the collection by batch. Ex. all coins of one country belong to a collection. Or I do a specific search on my coins and I want to put all 127 coins found in one collection. Feasible ??

Another useful idea would be to make the collection visible in the view where all coins are listed (ex search results). On the right are ticks that show wether I have or not a coin, there could show up the little coloured circle with letter that names the collection. Would help a lot.

Cita: "Ecapoe"​Hello,
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​Excellent new feature.
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​It would be really nice to have the possibility to define the collection by batch. Ex. all coins of one country belong to a collection. Or I do a specific search on my coins and I want to put all 127 coins found in one collection. Feasible ??
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​Another useful idea would be to make the collection visible in the view where all coins are listed (ex search results). On the right are ticks that show wether I have or not a coin, there could show up the little coloured circle with letter that names the collection. Would help a lot.

​Exactly what I was thinking, you worded better than me.

An one more step ahead would be the possibility to mark coins for certain collections, in spite still not having them. I think something like the wantlist criterion could work, but I also would add other filters, like countries and years.

Not our fault Xavier, if you give us something, we'll start asking for more and more...

Thank you for your positive comments :)

Definition of collection by batch could be useful, especially at the beginning when we all have to initialize our collection, but not so easy to implement.

If I understood well your idea for collection wantlist, it is very similar to the idea listed here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59166.html
It could be useful as well, but not easy either.

Cita: "Xavier"​Thank you for your positive comments :)
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​Definition of collection by batch could be useful, especially at the beginning when we all have to initialize our collection, but not so easy to implement.
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​If I understood well your idea for collection wantlist, it is very similar to the idea listed here: https://en.numista.com/forum/topic59166.html
​It could be useful as well, but not easy either.

​Hi Xavier:

I think the collections thing would be a great thing when doing swaps.

I collect coins from Latin America and Caribs, so to have marked the coins I want, I should go to each coin and mark it as wanted, or go to each country I'm not interested on, and mark each coin as not wanted. That would be a long work, but then when new coins are created, they will not be marked as wanted or not. I would need to search for latest coins often and mark them as wanted/not wanted; again extra work.

On the other hand, as my collection is about not very common and popular coins, is usual when I am in a swap to find I'm asked for more coins than what I would get, in such case, to avoid to reject swaps, I also accept silver coins from all the world to balance sides,.I don't actively search for silver coins, but I consider them as a 2nd collection, so I would select coins I don't have instead of getting loads of all-the-same coin.

So I used the wantlist feature to add criterion, added metal silver to filter so all silver coins are marked as wanted. In the swap list I can see the coins I marked as wanted, and also the silver coins of all the world. The list will show me what coins are marked, and what I already have, it is easier than look each page to know metal.

Only "problem" I see about want list filters (criterion), is that if I erase a criterion all coins that matched it will be unmarked (think would stay those I marked manually only).

When I look a swap list, if it's too long (some members offer more than 2,000 different coins), I use swap filters not to show "X" coins, but anyways, I get a long list for all the coins I don't have (coins from Europe, Africa, Asia, Oceania, exonumia and tokens, and also USA and Canada) and all the wanted coins.

So my idea is to have some filters like counties, metals, years, etc. and the possibility to permanently mark coins using them, to be included in collections.

Example: I create a collection name "Uruguay" (my country), I select coins from this country and mark them to belong to that collection, then I set other collection "Americas" select coins from Argentina and mark them to this second collection, then select Brazil, and again, and so on with all the countries. I think instead of doing it on wantlist, could be used the filters present of search page, only adding the option to add the collections mark to all selected (found) coins. Same for wanted/unwanted lists.

Hope I could explain myself and not confuse things.

OK, first off: I love the new dashboard settings!
The dowside: It takes hooooouuuuuursssssss to add 900 coins to a new collections, since I have to put them there one and one. Wouldn't it be more user friendly if Icould just mark them all add choose "add to XX collection"?


Anyway, I'm gonna be the douche here and put out the obvious. When we just had one dashboard it was all fine, and no one cared. Now, it will get more obvious and I reckon the dashboard needs to be more accurate and more detailed. Maybe not for all countries, former countries, former colonies, break away republics, etc. Here are a few examples I find are more urgent than other:

Biafra, a small are in south eastern Nigeria:


Free City of Danzig. A city in northern Poland, modern day Gdańsk:


East Germany. East. Germany.:


Hawaii. The island state. In the ocean:


South Vietnam. South. Vietnam.:


Tatarstan lies in the southeastern part of European Russia:


This one is kind of controversial for some. No explanation needed, I guess:


Zanzibar, an island, island, outside the coast of Tanzania:


Like I said, in the "old days", when we just had one dashboard, it really didn't matter. Now, well, now it matters more, I reckon. I understand we can't have every single German and Italian state, and French cities marked on the map, but some limitations should be possible, right? At least for West/East Germany and North/South Vietnam. And Tibet. Don't show that one to the Chinese guys, that will be ugly.

I also noticed that Greco-Bactrian Kingdom doesn't get marked at all on the map. Should be in central Asia, in the Iran-Afghanistan area somewhere.

I don’t even think the map as it exists could even have room for Hawaii! The map appears to cut off on both sides before the point where Hawaii is supposed to be at. Anyway, I agree with you. It would be nice to not have East Germany engulf West Germany or Tibet take up the entirety of China. I’m not sure how easy this would be to do on Xavier's end though.

I totally agree Ngdawa; it doesn't seem easy to implement but would be some serious improvement.
Where can we vote for this awesome idea ?