Contradictory info for Uzbekistan 1 and 20 Tiyin (KM#1 and KM#5)

I was looking into the 1994 Uzbekistan coinage and found that the Numista catalogue at some points differed from the online NGC catalogue, and at some points even contradicted itself.

1. Uzbekistan 1 Tiyin KM#1.1 and 1.2 in Numista and NGC online have opposite definitions.
In the Numisa catalogue, KM#1.1 is defined as 'small denomination, straight lines' and KM#1.2 as 'large denomination, curved lines' (identical both on the English and French page).
In the online NGC catalogue, it is the other way around. KM#1.1 says "Tall thin 1" and has the image of the tall curved denomination, while KM#1.2 says "Short thick 1"

2. 20 Tiyin KM#5.1 and 5.2-5.5 on English Numista page are opposite from NGC online and the French Numista page.
On the English Numista page, KM#5.1 is described 'with dots', while the same line on the French page says "Pas de perle à l'intérieur du listel" (i.e. no pearls inside the rim). In NGC, KM#5.1 says 'without beaded rim', and has a corresponding image.
The KM#5.2 on the other hand is described with "beaded rim" in NGC, while the English Numista page gives three entries for KM#5.2, of which two "without dots" and one with "beaded rim" (1994PM).

Kind request to the referee of Uzbekistan, ngdawa, to look into the matter.

Regards, Arno

Hi,

here are our findings concerning the 1 tiyin:



and here for the 20 tiyin:




Is this what you wanted to know?
Ole

No, this is not what I wanted to know.

I want to know why the description and images of your and Numista's KM#1.1 corresponds to NGC KM#1.2 and vice versa.

Same for KM#5.1 and KM#5.2. In addition, Numista is inconsistent in itself (English <> French, English first two entries of KM#5.2 <> last entry).

Hi,

NGC does NOT make the KM-numbers, KM does, so what NGC shows is all under their responsibility and if their numbering does does NOT correspond to KM, then NGC is in ERROR.

I just checked the 1 tiyin coin and NGC is wrong.

Ole

Hi Ole, that's a clear statement and precisely what I wanted to know

Same for KM#5.1 and #5.2?

Does KM have an online reference? I checked Numismaster.com but it seems to align with NGCcoins.com and gives even less information.

Hi,

It seems to align to this, I have changed the conclusion:




So everything is OK in my world, at least!
Ole