1/2 sol 1784 Lille? [Risolto]

Hello,
I have some trouble. I own 1/2 sol 1784 (I think so) with mintmark "star" or (W) as mint in Lille, but can not find it in catalog. Is too big for 1 liard (22) and too small to be 1 sol (29). Diameter is 25 like 1/2. Could my coin be counterfeited in this period or it's something rare? Coin is not in the best condition but I believe you can see date and mintmark.

Hello,

Your coin is a 1/2 Sol alright:
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4944.html

There appears to be a half fleur-de-lys on the upper right of the reverse for the engraver's privy mark, which matches the theory that this coin is from Lille (W mintmark);


but the corresponding star mint director's mark was not used until 1785 in Lille:


Perhaps this could be asked on the French forum?

Yes, that's right Thank you for confirmation, but I still can not find 1/2 sol 1784 with this mintmark: star or W however its called stand as Lille right? For year 1784 there was only mint
&, A, AA, B, BB, M, N, T.

Oh, thank you, didn't see your bigger answer before. World Coin catalog 1701-1800 is not able in "Google Books" anymore so there is my mistake with Lille. So which mint stands as "star" mark in year 1784?

There was no "star" mint director's mark in use anywhere in 1784, at least according to Krause's 1701-1800 SCWC (which seems to be a little incomplete); but to be fair, since 1785 was the beginning of the use of the star mint director's mark in Lille, there may have been some confusion with the combination of marks; Krause says:

"It is entirely possible that unattributed varieties may exist for any privy mark transition."

So perhaps yours is an unrecorded transitional type? I have seen others with inconsistent marks too, but then again they and yours may be contemporary fakes. I am no expert on pre-Revolution coinage, so I suggest asking on the French side forum again.

Thank you for your comprehensive answer. I will do as you said. I want add that the coin can not be contemporary fake. It was found in 1938 by my grandfather. Maybe it was counterfeited in Louis XVI period... Nevermind ;)

Cita: "anemon"​Thank you for your comprehensive answer. I will do as you said. I want add that the coin can not be contemporary fake. It was found in 1938 by my grandfather. Maybe it was counterfeited in Louis XVI period... Nevermind ;)

​My pleasure.

By the way, the term contemporary fake does mean counterfeited in Louis XVI's time, for this coin.

Okay, I got it Thanks!

Case solved.

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