Double names/better country search [Risolto]

Hello everybody!

Hopefully soon we will have new feature. It will help users to search countries in the country list. While it will be invisible, results will be clear; for example, if you today search for Burma or Siam, you get no results. Same goes for Florence and bunch of others and this shall change.

And since I will be able to add some sort of secondary name into the system for searching, and it won't be visible, I can add there basically anything. While I am not adding Beerland for Czech Republic or some similar funny names, it opens the possibility to have searchable national names. So Czech Republic would be searchable also by Česko/Česká Republika or United States could be made searchable by simple USA. What I would need help with, is summarizing the list of names you would like to see added this way. Keep them coming!

Best regards,
Jarek

List of searchable names:

Austria - Republik Österreich/Oesterreich
Austria-Habsburg - Austria-Hungary
Belgium - Belgique, ​België
Cameroon - France Libre, Free France
China Ancient - Imperial China
China Empire:
Qing Dynasty/Empire
Imperial China
Heavenly Kingdom
Taiping Tianguo
Taiping Rebellion
Ming Dynasty/Empire
Yuan Dynasty/Empire
Song Dynasty/Empire
Southern Song Dynasty/Empire
Northern Song Dynasty/Empire
Tang Dynasty/Empire
China- People's Republic of - People's Republic of China, PRC, Zhonghua Renmin Gongheguo
China- Republic - Republic of China, Zhonghua Minguo
Czech Republic - Czechia, Česko, Česká Republika
Czechoslovakia - Československo
Denmark - Danmark
Finland - Finnland,Suomi/Suomen Tasavalta
France - Republique Française, French Republic, Napoleonic France, Vichy France, État Français, French State, France Libre, Free France, French Empire, Empire Français
France - Kingdom - Bourbon France, Ancien Regime
French Equatorial Africa - France Libre, Free France
Germany 1871-1948 - Weimarer Republik, Kaiserreich, German Empire, Third reich, Drittes Reich, Deutsches Reich, German reich, Allied-occupied Germany
East Germany/German Democratic Republic - Deutsche Demokratische Republik/DDR
Estonia - Eesti/ Eesti Vabariik
Hungary - Austria-Hungary
Greenland - Kalaallit Nunaat/Kalâllit Nunât,Grønland
Iceland - Ísland
Iran - Persia, Islamic Republic of Iran, Qajar, Pahlavi, Safavid
Ireland - Irish Free State, Eire, Saorstát Éireann, Irish Republic, Hibernia
Italy - Italia, Repubblica/Repvbblica Italiana, Regno d'Italia, Kingdom of Italy, Italian Republic
Ivory Coast - Côte d'Ivoire
Latvia - Latvija/Latvijas Republika
Lithuania - Litwa/Lietuvos Respublika
Madagascar - France Libre, Free France
Mauritania - Mauretania, Mauritanea, Mauretanea
Myanmar - Burma
Norway - Norge ,Noreg
Slovakia - Slovensko
Slovenia - Slovenija
Swaziland - Eswatini
Sweden - Sweeden,Sverige
Switzerlarnd - Helvetia, Confœderatio Helvetica
Taiwan - Republic of China, Zhonghua Minguo
Thailand - Siam
United Arab Emirates - UAE
United Kingdom - UK, GB, England, Great Britain,Britannia
United States - USA, US, United States of America

Dae Han Min Guk/Dae Han Min Kuk/Han Guk/Han Kuk for South Korea

Buk Han/Choseon/Choseon Minjujuui Inmin Konghwaguk for North Korea

Joseon/Choseon/Goguryeo/Koguryo/Baekje/Paekche/Shilla/Silla/Gaya/Kaya for Korea (Unified)


Italian States:
Firenze - Florence

Livonia:

Danish Estonia:
Duchy of Estonia, Terra Mariana

Bishopric of Ösel-Wiek:
Bishopric of Saare-Lääne, Saare-Lääne Diocese, Ösel-Wiek Diocese

City of Narva and City of Reval:
Swedish Estonia, Duchy of Estonia

Bishopric of Courland:
Courland Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Duchy of Courland:
Duchy of Courland and Semigallia

Bishopric of Dorpat:
Bishopric of Tartu, Tartu Diocese, Dorpat Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Duchy of Livonia:
Polish Livonia, Principality of Inflanty, Inflanty

Livonia, Swedish:
Svenska Livland, Livland

Livonian Order:
Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Riga, Archbishopric of:
Archbishopric of Ryga, Bishopric of Ryga, Bishopric of Riga, Riga Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Riga, Free city of:
Free city of Ryga, Freetown Ryga, Freetown Riga

Livonia and Estonia:
Livoestonika

Also historical names can be supported this way, we can have United Kingdom searchable by British Empire as well and so on!

Oooh, nice.

Just putting it out there in case it hasn't already become policy, I think names with designations in Latin or their native languages (such as the ones usually seen on coins), like "Britannia" or "Hibernia" should be included, since often that is what newcomers search for in the country list (especially for lesser known countries).

Another issue is accent marks, some people's keyboards have less functional access to them so "Republique Francaise" or "Sao Tome and Principe" should also be accepted. Same goes for capitalisations, hyphenated names, abbreviations, common alternate spellings, etc (but I assume you already have planned for this).

In any case, to get the ball rolling, here are some alternative names for the UK:
United Kingdom
Great Britain
England (yes I know, but many Europeans often refer to the whole UK as England in their language, and searching England should bring up both the issuer England and the UK)
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
UK
GB
Britannia
(about "British Empire", I don't think that should be added personally because it's a colloquial term rather than a name, but if you want to I won't object.)

Also can I ask if this will be implemented on the French side also?

Oh, yes, it will be. Although I am not sure there will be many of such changes there, since French side is "national" already, and there is less room for International mistakes.

Ok, with regards to historical names in particular (e.g. Iran/Persie, Thaïlande/Siam) French side could also use it.

Anyway, a few more for now:

Searching "Austria-Hungary" or "Austro-Hungarian Empire" should bring up both the Austria - Habsburg issuer and Hungary (but maybe not the Austria issuer).

Germany 1871-1948 should come up when you search "Deutsches Reich", "German Realm" "German Empire", "Weimar Republic", "Nazi Germany", "Second Reich", "Third Reich", and maybe "Allied-occupied Germany".

France issuer should come up when "Republique Française", "French Republic", "Napoleonic France", "Vichy France", "État Français", "French State", "France Libre" and "Free France" are searched. (IMO the last two should also bring up Cameroon, French Equatorial Africa and Madagascar).

France - Kingdom issuer should come up when "Bourbon France", or "Ancien Regime" are searched.

Is this a start on a great era of Numista improvements or just a lonely feature on a sea of requests?

How about some common error spellings?
I often see people spell e.g. Mauritania as Mauretania, Mauritanea, Mauretanea.
And Sweden is often spelled Sweeden for some reason.


I also disagree that British Empire should show the UK (which btw should give result for United Kingdom). How about Czech Republic's new name Czechia? I don't know if anyone even uses that name, but is that searchable?

Ok for British Empire, it was just an idea, don't stone me.

I will start compiling the list right away.

Germany - 1871-1948
- Weimarer Republik
- Kaiserreich
- German Empire
- Third reich
- Drittes Reich
- Deutsches Reich
- German reich

Cita: "Jarcek"​Ok for British Empire, it was just an idea, don't stone me.
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​Well if it's possible, I'd like searching the term "British Empire" or "British colonial empire" to bring up all issuers with coins minted under British colonial rule. Same goes for the French, German, Dutch, Italian, Belgian, Spanish, Portuguese, Danish and Swedish colonial empires.

And in fact, all empires; e.g. searching "Russian Empire" should bring up not just Russia - Empire, but also the Russian partition of Poland issuer, Finland (because of the Grand Duchy coins), Moldavia and Wallachia, Siberia, and Livonia and Estonia.

Cita: "CassTaylor"​

Cita: "Jarcek"​Ok for British Empire, it was just an idea, don't stone me.
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​​Well if it's possible, I'd like searching the term "British Empire" or "British colonial empire" to bring up all issuers with coins minted under British colonial rule. Same goes for the French, German, Dutch, Italian, Belgian, Spanish, Portuguese, Danish and Swedish colonial empires.
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​And in fact, all empires; e.g. searching "Russian Empire" should bring up not just Russia - Empire, but also the Russian partition of Poland issuer, Finland (because of the Grand Duchy coins), Moldavia and Wallachia, Siberia, and Livonia and Estonia.
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​This shall be yet another feature.

Keep them coming. Although I am not yet sure if it will support non-latin scripts.

Great to hear!

Please add French Empire and Empire Français to France as well, since that term refers to the Bonapartist regimes.

For Ireland:
Irish Free State
Eire
Saorstát Éireann
Irish Republic
Hibernia

For Switzerland:
Helvetia
Confœderatio Helvetica

For Belgium:
Belgique
Belgïe

For the United States:
USA
US
America
United States of America

Cita: "CassTaylor"​Belgïe

​België*

Cita: "ngdawa"​

Cita: "CassTaylor"​Belgïe

​​België*

​Guess Petrus will be mad at me!

A few more, for Italy:
Italia
Repubblica/Repvbblica Italiana
Regno d'Italia
Kingdom of Italy
Italian Republic

Perhaps searching Sweden-Norway should bring up both Sweden and Norway (same for Denmark-Norway), since Norway was issued its own coins during both periods of union with another country?

Iran:
Persia
Islamic Republic of Iran
Qajar
Pahlavi
Safavid
(and also few others, I know less about Iranian history)

China Empire:
Qing Dynasty
Imperial China
Heavenly Kingdom
Taiping Tianguo
Taiping Rebellion
Ming Dynasty
Yuan Dynasty
Song Dynasty
Southern Song Dynasty
Northern Song Dynasty
Tang Dynasty
(all the Dynasty ones should also be available without Dynasty, and maybe with "empire" as a suffix too (e.g. Qing Empire). Searching "Imperial China" should trigger China - Ancient as well, which should also have all dynasties listed.

China- People's Republic of:
People's Republic of China
PRC
Zhonghua Renmin Gongheguo

China- Republic, and Taiwan:
Republic of China
Zhonghua Minguo

China- Japanese puppet states:
Manchukuo
Manchuria
Mengjiang
Reformed Government of Nanking
Republic of China (because the Japanese collaborationist government styled itself as such)

An expansion on this would be to add the terms for the nationality of a coin. For example, searching British gives you coins from Britain. French for France, you get the picture.

Any plans to include non-Latin alphabet-based spellings, i.e. country names as they are spelled on the coins?

Danish Estonia:
Duchy of Estonia, Terra Mariana

Bishopric of Ösel-Wiek:
Bishopric of Saare-Lääne, Saare-Lääne Diocese, Ösel-Wiek Diocese

City of Narva and City of Reval:
Swedish Estonia, Duchy of Estonia

Bishopric of Courland:
Courland Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Duchy of Courland:
Duchy of Courland and Semigallia

Bishopric of Dorpat:
Bishopric of Tartu, Tartu Diocese, Dorpat Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Duchy of Livonia:
Polish Livonia, Principality of Inflanty, Inflanty

Livonia, Swedish:
Svenska Livland, Livland

Livonian Order:
Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Riga, Archbishopric of:
Archbishopric of Ryga, Bishopric of Ryga, Bishopric of Riga, Riga Diocese, Livonian Confederation, Terra Mariana

Riga, Free city of:
Free city of Ryga, Freetown Ryga, Freetown Riga

Livonia and Estonia:
Livoestonika

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Those are all the alternate names of the Livonian-and-related-places I know of.

Cita: "Houseofham"​Any plans to include non-Latin alphabet-based spellings, i.e. country names as they are spelled on the coins?

​I am not sure if current system allows that, I can ask about it and surely propose that. It would have much bigger impact with non-latin scripts.

UAE = United Arab Emirates

Please add this entry:

Slovenia = Slovenija

So, basically we are just adding the native names of all countries? Just use Wikipedia for that and tick them off one by one. I thought this was to make it easier to find countries, like UAE for United Arab Emirates, USA for United States of America, UK/GB/Great Britain for United Kingdom. Or common spelling mistakes, so people still kan find "Finnland", "Sweeden", "Maruretanea", etc. Who is searching for the native names on an English site?

Well, it wont hurt to have native names. There are users as young as 12, so they might. Also, it is as much as I can go for so much requested numista translations at the moment.

I will update the list even with those spelling errors, don't worry.

Cita: "Jarcek"​Well, it wont hurt to have native names. There are users as young as 12, so they might. Also, it is as much as I can go for so much requested numista translations at the moment.
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​I will update the list even with those spelling errors, don't worry.

​OK, fair enough.

Hehe, I'm not worried. I was just wondering what the whole purpose was with this, that's all.

Cita: "Jarcek"​Well, it wont hurt to have native names. There are users as young as 12, so they might. Also, it is as much as I can go for so much requested numista translations at the moment.
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​I will update the list even with those spelling errors, don't worry.

Yeah, besides, it won't hurt to have as many options as possible.

A few more "native names":
Republik Österreich/Oesterreich for Austria
Deutsche Demokratische Republik/DDR for East Germany/German Democratic Republic
Eesti/ Eesti Vabariik for Estonia
Latvija/Latvijas Republika for Latvia
Litwa/Lietuvos Respublika for Lithuania
Suomi/Suomen Tasavalta for Finland

(for these next ones the formal name (e.g. Kingdom of Sweden) doesn't appear on modern coins, but you decide if we should include them)
Norge for Norway
Sverige for Sweden
Ìsland for Iceland
Danmark for Denmark
Grønland for Greenland

Miscalleneous:
"Channel Islands" should trigger Alderney, Jersey and Guernsey (which should also accept the old spelling Guernesey).
"British West Indies" should trigger not just the BWI issuer but also all the individual islands.

Cita: "CassTaylor"​Norge for Norway
​Ìsland for Iceland
​Grønland for Greenland

Also Noreg should also be searchable for Norway, then.

Ísland*

Kalaallit Nunaat/Kalâllit Nunât for Greenland.

• Dae Han Min Guk/Dae Han Min Kuk/Han Guk/Han Kuk for South Korea
  
• Buk Han/Choseon/Choseon Minjujuui Inmin Konghwaguk for North Korea
  
• Joseon/Choseon/Goguryeo/Koguryo/Baekje/Paekche/Shilla/Silla/Gaya/Kaya for Korea (Unified)
  

Updated the list.

I remember when I was doing GCSE History, "Czechoslovakia" was one of the most commonly misspelt words in my class' mock exams- but I'll leave any common misspellings up to you.

Anyway, here are some more for Francophone Africa:

French West Africa should bring up, and also should be triggered by: Afrique Occidentale Française, AOF, Mauritania, Mauritanie, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, Haute Volta, Togo, Benin, Dahomey, Côte d'Ivoire, Ivory Coast, Guinea, Guinée, Senegal, Sénegal, Soudan Français, French Sudan, Western African States, BCEAO.

French Equatorial Africa should bring up, and also be triggered by: Afrique Equatoriale Française, AEF, Tchad, Chad, Congo Français, Republic of the Congo/Congo/Congo- Republic, Republique du Congo, Gabon, Central African Republic, CAR, Republique Centrale Africaine, Ubangui-Shari, Central African States, BEAC, Equatorial African States.

Burkina Faso should be triggered by "Upper Volta" or "Haute Volta" as well as "Republique du Burkina Faso/Republic of Burkina Faso".

Guinea should have "Guinée", "Republique de Guinée/Republic of Guinea", and "Guinea Conakry"

Central African Republic should have "CAR", and "Republique Centrale Africaine"

Chad should have "Tchad" and "Republique du Tchad/Republic of Chad"

Mauritania should have "Mauritanie", and "Republique Islamique de Mauritanie/Islamic Republic of Mauritania"

Ivory Coast should have "Republique de Côte d'Ivoire/Republic of Côte d'Ivoire" as well as just Côte d'Ivoire

Niger should have "Republique du Niger/Republic of Niger"

Mali should have "Republique du Mali/Republic of Mali"

Benin should have "Dahomey" and "Republique du Benin/Republic of Benin" as well as "Republique Populaire du Benin/People's Republic of Benin"

Togo should have "Republique Togolaise/Togolese Republic", "Territoire du Togo", and "Togoland" (and "Territoires sous mandat de la France")

Cameroon should have "Republique du Cameroun/Republic of Cameroon" , Territoire du Cameroun, Kamerun, and "Territoires sous mandat de la France".

Gabon should have "Republique Gabonaise/Gabonese Republic".

Congo - Republic should have "Congo" (which should also bring up the DRC), "Republique du Congo/Republic of (the) Congo", "Republique Populaire du Congo/People's Republic of (the) Congo", French Congo/Congo Français, and Middle Congo/Moyen Congo.

Western African States (BCEAO), Central African States (BEAC) and Equatorial African states should all be brought up by "CFA Franc", as well as by searching all their member states in English and French, and also by searching their acronyms (in brackets above), and French West Africa should be brought up by searching the first one, French Equatorial Africa for the other two as well.

Madagascar should have "Malagasy" and "Repoblika Malagasy/Malagasy Republic/Republique Malagache"

Djibouti, French Afars and Issas, and French Somaliland should all be brought up by searching each other, as well as "Republique de Djibouti/Republic of Djibouti", "Côte Française des Somalis", and "Territoires Français des Afars et des Issas".

Comoros (which is what the issuer should be named) should have "Îles Comores/Archipel des Comores/Comoro Islands", "Union des Comores/Union of the Comoros", "Comoros", "Grande Comore".

Réunion should have "Île de (la) Réunion", Île du Bourbon, and searching for it or Îles de France et Bonaparte should bring each other up.

(France really colonised a lot of Africa, and I still haven't counted Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and the Belgian colonies yet) I'll do the Belgian, German and Italian colonies next.

Nice feature, for sure will ease things on searches, specially for those not used to the country names showing at Numista.

Official name of Uruguay is "Republica Oriental del Uruguay", which shows in many Uruguayan coins, specially the oldest ones.

Bolivia modified their name to "Estado Plurinacional de Bolivia"
By the way, old Bolivian coins are often named as "Potosi", since that was the most important minthouse during colonial period; at that time Bolivia was not separated form the Virreinato del Peru (Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador).

And Vieques Island (subregion of Puerto Rico, who issued coins via countermark) is known also as Crabs Island.

Alaouite dynasty
and
alawite dynasty
for morocco

Saadi Dynasty

Alternative names: "Saadian dynasty" or "Sa'dian dynasty" or "Sa'di dynasty"

A small follow-up. This https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_alternative_country_names is now integrated into Numista (with few small exceptions). 😈

Long live ceylon, swaziland, burma among others!

peterjhalford

Long live ceylon, swaziland, burma among others!

And long live the colonial age? 🙄

ngdawaHow about some common error spellings?
I often see people spell e.g. Mauritania as Mauretania, Mauritanea, Mauretanea.
And Sweden is often spelled Sweeden for some reason.


I also disagree that British Empire should show the UK (which btw should give result for United Kingdom). How about Czech Republic's new name Czechia? I don't know if anyone even uses that name, but is that searchable?

 

‘Czechia’ is just an alternate short name for the Czech Republic - which covers the same territory as for Bohemia & Moravia.

 

The British Empire was a collection of places under the rule of the British Crown.

 

Aidan.

Czechia is searchable and British empire is not. :)

Jarcek

Czechia is searchable and British empire is not. :)

Děkuju!