Hi
Would it be too much of a trouble for Numista masters to open new coin type "Fake coins" (fakes and counterfeits). I have some at home in my collection and would be glad to share them on Numista. I guess displaying them on a forum site is a weak and unfriendly solution.
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Personally, I do not support the idea of adding an ability to track user's fake coins. Rather we can find a way how to inform the user how to recognize fakes of most commonly faked coins.
There are already some modern Chinese fakes listed in the Exonumia section (last time I checked), so do you mean something like that? It's certainly preferable to new users listing their Chinese fakes in the real coin's page and messing up the statistics for their collection and the page's NRI.
Fake coins are a menace that need to be stopped, there are many fake coins coming out of Chinese mills and these are mostly low quality fakes made out of base metals, some dangerous like lead and zinc usually plated gold or silver.
It is bad enough our trade me site in NZ called Trade Me has a dedicated section to "Replica and Reproduction coins" and these are all cheaply made Chinese junk. Even worse is some sellers buy them wholesale and sell then to "Bunnies" on ebay and then these bunnies think this junk is real.
I have asked Trade Me to take down illegal coins several times, but they never do anything as every item sold is more success fees for them. If they list they may as well list Play money too.
I love coins. Especially silver, gold and anything really old.
Member of the Royal Numismatic Society of New Zealand and the Auckland Numismatic Society
I agree they should not be in the catalogue, but they should be on the site, as it is useful to help newer members learn how to spot a fake.
There's already a small list of them in the Numisdoc section, so if we could have something like that where members could edit and add to it without needing an administrator to do it, then that would be good.
Is there any way we can make the Numisdocs more of a wiki so that we don't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the admin with the information and sending them pictures of the fake coins so that they can add them when they get the spare time?
Cita: "neilithicman"Is there any way we can make the Numisdocs more of a wiki so that we don't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the admin with the information and sending them pictures of the fake coins so that they can add them when they get the spare time?
No. Numisdoc doesn't work the same way the main catalogue does as it does not have/allow the option (once published) for anybody to edit an article and submit for review/validation/publication.
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Cita: "neilithicman"Is there any way we can make the Numisdocs more of a wiki so that we don't have to go through the rigmarole of contacting the admin with the information and sending them pictures of the fake coins so that they can add them when they get the spare time?
No. Numisdoc doesn't work the same way the main catalogue does as it does not have/allow the option (once published) for anybody to edit an article and submit for review/validation/publication.
Yes I know that is the case now....What I'm asking is whether it can be changed so that people can edit it from now on? If not then perhaps we can create a new fake coin list thread and get it pinned to the top of the "Numismatic questions" or "coin identification" threads so people can add their own coins.
Cita: "neilithicman"Yes I know that is the case now....What I'm asking is whether it can be changed so that people can edit it from now on? If not then perhaps we can create a new fake coin list thread and get it pinned to the top of the "Numismatic questions" or "coin identification" threads so people can add their own coins.
About the change: technically, not that I know of with current tool status.
I already created two (temporary) threads about fakes on Free discussion forum and Catalog forum to let people know they can report their fakes but problems that pop to my mind with thread-type listing:
it does not allow to easily navigate through it (compared to by country jump within Numisdoc, with common template for each coin)
it can not be sorted through sub-categories, while Numisdoc can allow this (ides for categories within a country: metal -gold, silver, etc.-, type -Barber, Morgan, etc.-, quality, size, etc. whatever comes to people's mind);
long run: discussions about fakes will tend to make it a heavy thread that at some point will require follow-up threads to be able to load properly.
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