Rare? Hasn't it been discarded?

Hi,

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2587.html

a beautiful exemple of a not understanddable "rare"!

The 1922A with more than 89.000.000 is marked as rare, whereas most of the coins of around it
1921E
1921F
1921G
1921J

1922D
1922F
1922G etc

with less than 30.000.000 are not!!!!
Ole

I agree that "rare" tags should be removed, however we should keep in mind that the mintage of a coin doesn't prove its rarity either.

If you check the list of people who wants to exchange this coin you will notice that none of them propose the year 1922 from Berlin : https://en.numista.com/echanges/liste.php?piece=2587

I didn't find any informations about it, but there is probably an explanation about that. It is possible that a major part of the production has been melted down and never circulate.

It was what happened with the aussie 20 cents between 1982 and 1994 : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1003.html
55.113.000 were created in 1983 but they seem to have been never released into circulation : http://www.coincuriosity.com/view/australian-20c-pieces-1983-1993.html

Cita: "Cycnos"​I agree that "rare" tags should be removed, however we should keep in mind that the mintage of a coin doesn't prove its rarity either.
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​If you check the list of people who wants to exchange this coin you will notice that none of them propose the year 1922 from Berlin : https://en.numista.com/echanges/liste.php?piece=2587
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​I didn't find any informations about it, but there is probably an explanation about that. It is possible that a major part of the production has been melted down and never circulate.
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​It was what happened with the aussie 20 cents between 1982 and 1994 : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces1003.html
​55.113.000 were created in 1983 but they seem to have been never released into circulation : http://www.coincuriosity.com/view/australian-20c-pieces-1983-1993.html

​We agree totally on that, but here we just have an entry taken from SCWC without any more thoughts! So we can guess it's correct or just assume that SCWC is in error.... we simply don't know, so until we see some "proof" let's assume that the minting quantities might be the best indicator?

Ole

This page is a good indicator too : https://en.numista.com/echanges/liste.php?piece=2587

We got enough data to assume this coin is way less common than the others : about 90 numista members want to exchange the "1917 A" minted at "87,315,000".
We would expect something similar for the year 1922 A (more or less 60%), however nobody wants to exchange it.

We can jump to the same conclusion by looking for this coin online : I did a quick search but I couldn't find any pictures of it.
For me something happened to the production ; I assume there is a link with the hyperinflation of the Mark and the Occupation of the Ruhr in January 1923 by France (It probably caused a shortage of iron in Germany).
The Mark was almost worthless at this period. I guess the face value of those coins was probably lower than their melting value at the end of the year 1923.
Regarding this context, I guess the Berlin mint anticipated the situation and sacrified its production of 5 pfennig before it was released into circulation.

https://www.marxists.org/subject/germany-1918-23/sewell/chapter5.htm