4 Maravedis 1617 coin i am not sure if this is the actual discription km#3 [Risolto]

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Found this coin in a safe my mother owned and just want to know if anyone knows anything about it, I am having trouble finding a picture that is exactly like this coin. I am also curious if anyone would know a value for this coin as well, I look forward to any thought's on the coin. dmeza01
Donald Meza
What is the diameter?
On the second image that is not IIII letters for 4 it is an aqueduct mintmark.
The denomination has been obliterated by the XII for 12 overstamp.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Maybe before the XII stamp it was VIII for 8 Maravedis.
This below (Segovia) has the 1617 date on the right of the lion like yours ...
https://www.ma-shops.com/cdma/item.php?id=512096
and is KM#16 reference.
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
This is 25.5mm
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces67810.html
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
so what do you think the XII on the coin is you do not believe it was originally part of the coin that it was struck on it later. I am asking because i am very new to this i have many old coins not as old as this one but have no idea what they are worth or if it is a good coin to keep.
Donald Meza
In times of inflation some coins, in various countries, were over-stamped with a different
denomination - such as maybe an 8 Maravedis was revalued to 12 Maravedis. So if prices
have risen that what used to cost 8 Maravedis was now 12 then the government recalled
all 8 Maravedis coins and over-stamped them with the new value; so the same coin could
buy the same items. And to show it was an official overstamp they sometimes put
another stamp on there - like on the other side of your coin, with that 64I which could
mean it was revalued, 24 years later - after Philip III, in 1641.
Something like that.
Examples on the first page here - there are a lot of countermarked coins, for same reasons ...
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/bresil-1.html

EDIT: Here is a page that at the top has information ...
http://forum.treasureclassifieds.com/Thread-1500-s-spanish-viii-maravedis-counter-stamped-xii-maravedis-1600-s#sthash.kHGRwF0U.dpbs
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countermark
Also, with a different coin though, this has information ...
https://finds.org.uk/database/artefacts/record/id/474629

This (1625) has the stamps (XII and 1641) both sides like yours, and it
has the XII at an angle, so that the VIII underneath can be seen a little ...
https://www.ma-shops.co.uk/an/item.php?id=430
Token collector [1600-1899] with some coins
Your coin is in Numista
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces137749.html
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
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