Face value of Falkland Island Crowns

Put simply, is it 25p or £5? At the moment, nearly all Falkland Island crowns are listed as £5, despite the coins having "1 Crown" as the denomination.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces13591.html

This is in contrast to the UK crown-sized coins which, since 1990, have clearly stated "Five Pounds" as their denomination. A quick look at the Pobjoy Mint website gives neither in the description, just "Crown". I know this is rather academic as the coins are not in circulation but it would help tidy up this section if we knew one way or the other. By contrast, all the IOM crowns are listed as 25p. If it is 25p, there are quite a lot of them to change, so it would be easiest for this to be done automatically if that's possible.

wikipedia
Crowns were minted a few times after decimalisation of the British currency in 1971, initially with a nominal value of 25 pence. However, commemorative crowns issued since 1990 have a face value of five pounds.

The wikipedia article is based on Royal Mint data which concerns only the English coins, but it would be quite artificial to differentiate motherlands crowns from the crowns of the satelite countries with the only pretext that there is no royal decree concerning the value of non-circulating crowns of the satelite countries.
So the most clever choice is to fix the value of the crown to 5 pounds.

Whatever value is used is entirely arbitrary since they are fantasy pieces and have nothing to do with any circulating coinage. The best way to list these pieces is to have their own 'currency' section, for example 'Isle of Man - Crown coinage', and then the value of the Crown can be set to 1 - easy

Cita: "Frenchlover"​wikipedia
​Crowns were minted a few times after decimalisation of the British currency in 1971, initially with a nominal value of 25 pence. However, commemorative crowns issued since 1990 have a face value of five pounds.
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​The wikipedia article is based on Royal Mint data which concerns only the English coins, but it would be quite artificial to differentiate motherlands crowns from the crowns of the satelite countries with the only pretext that there is no royal decree concerning the value of non-circulating crowns of the satelite countries.
​So the most clever choice is to fix the value of the crown to 5 pounds.

​Not sure it's clever to make such an assumption, especially given that the UK coins aren't actually crowns but crown-sized five pound coins which do not bear the denomination crown, unlike the Falkland Island coins under discussion. It's also fairly irrelevant what the Royal Mint says because these coins were produced by the Pobjoy Mint. Let's also remember that the first Falkland Island crown-sized coins were 50p pieces, followed by £2 and £5 coins (all with the denomination shown), before the more recent "1 crown" coins appeared.
I rather like radrick007's suggestion but I should point out that it's only the bullion IOM crowns that are put in a separate section. However, if we're calling these fantasy pieces, it would be appropriate and would tidy up the Falkland Islands section significantly. Can we justify that label? If we can, a lot of other Pobjoy issues could go the same way.

The Falkland Islands Crowns are actually medal-coins - as 1 Crown is a medal-coin denomination.

The same thing also applies to the Gibraltarian & Manx medal-coins denominated in Crowns as well.

Aidan.

Cita: "radrick007"​... The best way to list these pieces is to have their own 'currency' section, ...

​Sure, I've done that for Tristan da Cunha crown coinage, but there are 80 coins to modify one by one for Falklands islands and I'm a bit lazy
Fortunately, I've not to create a "Sovereign" coinage till 1 Sovereign is equal to 1 Pound

Cita: "BCNumismatics"​The Falkland Islands Crowns are actually medal-coins - as 1 Crown is a medal-coin denomination.
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​The same thing also applies to the Gibraltarian & Manx medal-coins denominated in Crowns as well.
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​Aidan.

​This is certainly true for many of these coins but the earliest IOM crowns circulated (https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces19123.html), so we need to exercise a little caution.

I was referring to the post-1971 Manx Crown-denominated medal-coins that was struck at the Pobjoy Mint - especially in relation to subjects totally unconnected to the Isle of Man, such as for the 1982 World Cup of Football in Spain.

Aidan.

I've asked for the new currency "Falkland Islands - Crown (2005-date)"

Since this never got resolved I asked Pobjoy to confirm the value in GBP.

…at least now we can list them appropriately at twenty-five pence value.

 

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Was wondering if you could tell me the assigned legal tender value in GBP of the Falkland Islands Crown Coins.

It is impossible to guess, it could be 25p, 50p, £2, or £5 – as that size coin has many values in many territories.

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Hi Dan,

Thank you for your email. I can confirm that one Crown does indeed have the value of 25p.

Kind regards 
 

The Pobjoy Team

Many thanks for chasing this up. Frenchlover - you're the referee. Can you make the changes where necessary?