We should have some discussion on how to treat the situation of military currency. Many nations have it. It was not issued for use in the homeland, usually. For example, the Military currency used in Italy , Germany, Japan, Poland, Oceania, Hong Kong.
Should we have a currency for military currency? It needs discussed. Hopefully we can address the unique status it should have.
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Oklahoman, I'm assuming Military currency is referring to what are Military Payment Certificates (MPC) in the US, Special Vouchers in the UK and not occupation currency such as JIM notes from the Japanese War effort as I believe these are separate discussions with different conclusions.
I believe Military currency should be a cataloged as a sub-category of the issuing nation, similar to the way notgeld is cataloged. First, these notes are generally collected as issues of their respective nations and not as money of the nations in which they were used by military personal. (different from occupation issues) The interest in them lies with collectors of the issuing nation and not where they were used. Military Currency is also typically cataloged under the host nation by major catalogs. We should maintain some conformity with traditional cataloging practices.
Second, many of these issues were used in multiple places in different parts of the world. US MPC Series 521 for example was used in 19 different countries to include France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, and Morocco. I have no idea how one would settle on where to list these other than under the US. (Unless you had a stateless Nation such as "Tokens" for them, which really would serve no purpose other than to separate them from other issues)
I agree, for the the military currency they should be listed under the issuing nation like notgelds. The occupation currency like Japanese or German notes should be listed under the nation where they circulated, in a separate section.
I agree...but options for listing as an mpc or as occupation currency do not exist. We have to choose unknown. Local. Standard. Commemorative...etc. we do not have choices that reflect what these are. I am a bit sensitive about how numista banknotes is recieved. It's very welcomed...but people glom on to the things that will come with maturity of the site. I think that we could create some currency options that reflect what the currency is. I am glad for people speaking up.
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I agree the options available do not adequately reflect what type of currency these notes are. They are not standard or local and the other options are even less descriptive. Can we add other choices? If so Military Notes or Military Issue would fit. As to the JIM type notes, Occupations Notes also works. These are the terms the currencies are associated with in the US. Are they different in other parts of the world?
I would vote for 'military notes' or 'military currency' as a new type. Then 'series' or 'event' or other appropriately named optional section could specify its use (war, occupation, etc.)
Cita: "ceh2019"Given that we now have "military tokens" in Exonumia, surely military vouchers (like this and this, not occupation money) should go in Exonumia too?
Those are NOT exonumia, as those are official military notes.
So what that they were issued by the military? The point is that they were only used within the military, so they aren't true paper money. Just like postal orders, putting them all together in their own section is far more appropriate and will allow collectors to truly appreciate these issues.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
I hope we can see some developments on this soon. I still can't see any reason to separate coin-like issues used within the military but not paper ones.
Former Numista referee for banknotes from Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Saint Helena.
Cita: "ceh2019"So what that they were issued by the military? The point is that they were only used within the military, so they aren't true paper money. Just like postal orders, putting them all together in their own section is far more appropriate and will allow collectors to truly appreciate these issues.
The British Armed Forces notes are still recognised as official issues - considering that the British Armed Forces are officially recognised.
Aidan.
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