Hi everyone,
I was just wondering why there seems to be a difference in font for the 2002 and 2008 5 peso coins.
Also it seems that the "P" on "Pesos" is much closer to the rim for the 2008 coin, and the top of the portrait on the back is closer to the rim for the 2008.
Any help would be much appreciated!
I do not know what mint these are coming from, but the irregularities you observe are not outside norms in many currencies.
edit to add: could very well be from different mints. contracts are let annually. could be poland or argentina or..?
Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac
According to Numista there are two types for 2008, magnetic and non-magnetic. (I'm not sure why Numista puts them together.) Schön says there is only the not-magnetic type for 2008.
Which type do you have?
Looking a my coins and some images from the web all years match your 2002 (roughly) except for 2008 coins. I didn't find any 2008 matching your 2002.
It could be that 2008 is different, or the non-magnetic 2008 is different (if 2008 magnetic exists), or maybe my sample size wasn't big enough to form a conclusion.
Cita: "bjherbison"https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2504.html
According to Numista there are two types for 2008, magnetic and non-magnetic. (I'm not sure why Numista puts them together.) Schön says there is only the not-magnetic type for 2008.
Which type do you have?
Looking a my coins and some images from the web all years match your 2002 (roughly) except for 2008 coins. I didn't find any 2008 matching your 2002.
It could be that 2008 is different, or the non-magnetic 2008 is different (if 2008 magnetic exists), or maybe my sample size wasn't big enough to form a conclusion.
I actually have both types, so they do exist! Why did you provide the link, let the asking guy work a bit as well? That's what makes collecting a fun hobby!
Cita: "Sjoelund"I actually have both types, so they do exist!
After I posted I realized I forgot the obvious question: What is the head position on your two 2008 coins of different metal? And do you have any non-2008 coins of this type with a high portrait?
Cita: "Sjoelund"I actually have both types, so they do exist!
After I posted I realized I forgot the obvious question: What is the head position on your two 2008 coins of different metal? And do you have any non-2008 coins of this type with a high portrait?
Not metal, but alloy.... What is a high portrait and how do you make an image of that?
Cita: "Sjoelund"Not metal, but alloy.... What is a high portrait and how do you make an image of that?
In the pictures in the first post the portrait for 2008 seems higher on the coin than for the 2002. And for the coins I have and the images I found on the web every 2008 had that higher portrait and every non-2008 had a lower portrait like the 2002.
(I didn't closely examine the pictures for other differences inside years or between years.)
But I was inaccurate. Looking at my coins again the correct term should be "larger", not "higher". For the coins I have the 2008 portrait is wider and taller than the 2002 portrait. And that seems to be the case in the coins pictured in this post.
Cita: "Sjoelund"I actually have both types, so they do exist!
After I posted I realized I forgot the obvious question: What is the head position on your two 2008 coins of different metal? And do you have any non-2008 coins of this type with a high portrait?
I know which line is magnetic and which not!!!! So try your "theory" with the high and low reliefs on them
My question was about position/size, not relief. The two portraits appear to be close to the same size (based on pixel measurements from the images).
If I was told there was a visible difference between the types I would say that the lower image is magnetic based on two aspects:
The position of the portrait for the top coin matches my non-magnetic but for the lower coin the portrait extends into the ring.
On both sides the dots around the date on the top coin are higher relative to the date than the lower image. Again, the top coin is closer to the non-magnetic example I have.
Either way, thank you for the images. I'll have to spend some time on the other images I can find on the web to see how many minor variations in position and size I can find.
It's actually the top coin, which is magnetic.... maybe the color can give it away, but I'm not too sure about that, since I haven't compared with the two coins from 2008 in my doubles list yet! Those I never tested with a magnet, so I'll see some time next week. I'll be back.
Cita: "bjherbison"According to Numista there are two types for 2008, magnetic and non-magnetic. Schön says there is only the not-magnetic type for 2008.
That's not correct, Schön also mentions the magnetic 2008 (although not in the price lines but at the top where the different dates are):
First of all, it's not nice using my pictures (without asking) and then put another name under it as copyright holder.
But secondly, and more importantly, you can't use the same pictures for two different coin types. That's totally incorrect:
- The 2008 magnetic coin has an oval O and more curled S's in "PESOS" while the 2008 non-magnetic has a round O and less curled S's.
- The dots beside "REPUBLICA DOMINICANA" are closer to this lettering on the 2008 magnetic coin.
- The dots beside the date on the reverse are closer to the rim on the 2008 non-magnetic coin.
Cita: "Essor Prof"First of all, it's not nice using my pictures (without asking) and then put another name under it as copyright holder.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize there were limits for using images already on Numista. I didn't intentionally set the copyright, I just said to use another image on Numista.
It would be nice if Numista handled that case by transferring the copyright information it already has. The editing guidelines should probably be updated to be more clear about permissions for images already on Numista. Do you have suggestions for what they should say?
Thank you for identifying the differences between the types, that is very useful. I will get better images and add that information to the coin pages.
Unfortunately it will be at least a few days before I can work on this. As a first step I updated the copyright information on the images.
Differences between the 2008 magnetic and 2008 non-magnetic in case you don't have a magnet. All differences are on the reverse. Different coloured arrows within a picture are always equal (copy & paste).
2. The dots beside the lettering "REPUBLICA DOMINICANA" are closer to this lettering and the lettering itself is closer to the inner ring on the magnetic coin.
4. Many differences on the coat of arms. On the magnetic coin:
- The upper banner is very close to the outer ring.
- Shorter shield.
- Less and wider horizontal and vertical bars on the shield.
- Bigger arrow heads on the flag poles.
- Smaller cross.
- Different flag drapes.
- More leaves touching the lower banner at left.
- The knot under the lower banner is flatter.
You know you can always use my pictures but thank you very much for asking. I've already made a change request (both for the magnetic and the non-magnetic type) but not as compact as your documentations always are. I made it just the same as here on the forum.
Cita: "Essor Prof"Hey Ole,
You know you can always use my pictures but thank you very much for asking. I've already made a change request (both for the magnetic and the non-magnetic type) but not as compact as your documentations always are. I made it just the same as here on the forum.
Thanks, but in the end I don't think it's worth the time, since it certainly will be rejected, since already there. Furthermore the test with the magnet is so evident, that I'll not go any further.
