Picture yourself scrolling down banknotes and whiz by the many entries of the same title... and then there is this: 20 Dollars (With Devil's face)
Here's another "issue" - Some countries have multiple issuers during the same period of time; such include Hong Kong, Macau, and the United Kingdom (England and Scotland). Italy is another example with hyphen-delineated issuers. Ireland, on the other hand, has used hyphens to indicate series instead.
Numisdoc guidelines for coins suggest using hyphens for monarch or ruler.
"If the monogram or the portrait of a ruler shows on the coin, give the ruler's name. Separate it from the face value with an hyphen."
For banknotes, I feel that the bank name or series would fit in the same place as the ruler.
Here's a proposed format: Value"Nickname"- Issuer (Series, Variety/Commemorative descriptor)
(Italicized fields would only apply to certain banknotes; Bold fields would apply to all.)
Issuer can be specific to certain countries and time periods.
For example:
25 Cents "Shinplaster" - Dominion of Canada
10 Dollars "Banana Money" - Japanese Government
In the case of Macao, we will not be using a - to seperate the denomination from a bank name, for the very reason you pointed out, it is not a monarch or a leader. The bank name and subject will be in parenthesis. The parenthesis causes the information to appear smaller and supportive to the denomination of the page. This is the sense we wish to convey.
I specifically emailed you about this, because you submit great edits, but you have also submitted edits to change the titles that were in place. And since the titles were not consistent, nothing was said.
A pattern has been decided for Macao. Please follow it. You can submit the edits or not, I will be making the edits regardless.
Your contributions are important and valuable. I hope they continue.
As time allows, other nations will be standardized, by their referee and by the admin team.
Contrary to belief by some, the banknote side is not a hodge podge. It is well thought out, and the attempt is to follow a pattern set by the success of the visual organization of the coin side. This is not always a comfortable fit. Standardization must be looked for within a nation's listings,and not necessarily expected when comparing a nation's listings to the listings of another nation.
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Parenthesis are nice for differenciating similar notes or giving extra information (not just commemorations, but also foreign occuptions), which would mean not every page necessarily needs that information. If we treat every issuing authority like a monarch, your last examples would actually have longer names:
20 Dollars - Bank of Canada (Frontiers)
20 Dollars - Bank of Canada (Frontiers; Queen Elizabeth II)
1 Dollars - Bank of Canada (Canadian Landscapes; without Devil's face)
1 Dollar - Bank of Canada (Centennial of Confederation)
And... that just seems unnecessary to me. However, if there were two different issuers issuing the same type of banknote, I think a differenciation would definitely make sense:
20 Dollars (Frontiers; Bank of Canada)
20 Dollars (Frontiers; Dominion of Canada)
Obviously, that is a ficticious example. A non-ficticious example would be within Macau:
10 Patacas (Year of the Dragon; Bank of China)
10 Patacas (Year of the Dragon; BNU)
So... yeah. I also prefer putting the issuer in parenthesis.
The intention of this thread is to discuss how to differentiate titles with same values from the same period - this can be the case when a commemorative note is issued or when there are multiple concurrent issuers; sometimes even both! As noted in the OP, this is specific to certain countries and time periods. I generally think it's good to have Bank name after Series or Commemoration (together in parenthesis - separated by comma, semicolon, or dash). Banks tend to be around for longer than a person or event
As mentioned, the standard format for banknotes is a work in progress, particular to each nation.
Questions and suggestions about other countries' formats may be shared here in this forum as needed!
Best,
Titus
Numista referee for banknotes from Canada, USA, Costa Rica, China, Macau, Singapore, & Taiwan.
Stato cambiato a Fatto(Sulfur, 12 Nov 2020, 02:33)