First of all, I would like to thank you for implementing this measure. I think it can help a lot to expand the list of sources for Numista. Thanks again.
I would start (I have many suggestions) with this website:
I have been all over the internet without having found any photos except those shown above. I believe it would be important to document the two sizes of the S mint marks in the Comments section, so I'll prepare the graphic in the hope, that the site will accept our use of its images.
In my collection, I have only one of the variants, which one, I haven't verified yet!
How can we know that, just use their images, when necessary. It's all we want, you can't expect us to investigate their sources. We're covered, since we have the NGC permission, right?
How can we know that, just use their images, when necessary. It's all we want, you can't expect us to investigate their sources. We're covered, since we have the NGC permission, right?
That's a joke, right?
Then I request to ask Colnect to use their pictures.
Only halfway a joke, I once asked UCoins, and they answered back that it was not possible to give numista the right to use their images, since they are NOT owners of the images on their site!
If NGC says it's OK to use their images, I suppose that they have an agreement that all images used on their site also belong to NGC, hence you can just use them.
When we, @rsirian1 documented the US coins, we quite often could have used the images from NGC, but we refrained because of the copy right barrier. Many times NGC have the better images.
Selective permissions are usually a reason not to use a source. Either all or nothing. At least for stuff in the drop-down list.
I disagree. We also have PCGS- they don't have any world catalog. The terms here are the same.
We have permission to use NGC's own high quality pictures, this includes NGC Photovision Plus and the general NGC internet imaging. Every single coin submitted the past few years to NGC are photographed. That's hundreds, if not thousands, of coins every day being imaged. That is very much a great addition to Numista. Many rare and scarce coins in the catalog can receive a better pictures now.
In practice this means everytime you see a NGC holdered coin on an auction website you can look up the certification at NGC's website and take the pictures from there. That is truly an asset to Numista. While it's easy to be disappointed that pictures from Krause are not included, then we must not forget the big contribution NGC still does to Numista.
Selective permissions are usually a reason not to use a source. Either all or nothing. At least for stuff in the drop-down list.
I disagree. We also have PCGS- they don't have any world catalog. The terms here are the same.
We have permission to use NGC's own high quality pictures, this includes NGC Photovision Plus and the general NGC internet imaging. Every single coin submitted the past few years to NGC are photographed. That's hundreds, if not thousands, of coins every day being imaged. That is very much a great addition to Numista. Many rare and scarce coins in the catalog can receive a better pictures now.
In practice this means everytime you see a NGC holdered coin on an auction website you can look up the certification at NGC's website and take the pictures from there. That is truly an asset to Numista. While it's easy to be disappointed that pictures from Krause are not included, then we must not forget the big contribution NGC still does to Numista.
While really nice pictures are greatest thing after someone invented white bread on that continent, please have in mind, that the main approach should still be collective database, primarily built up by Numista members personal material. I wrote something here, which I dare to say sadly did not catch up (https://en.numista.com/forum/topic155312.html#p1221119). Numista by my personal standards should never discard lesser personal pictures, unless these are really bad, in case they were added prior to pictures made by professionals or by professional tools or copied from money making sites. Such current approach may be discouraging to users who try or have tried their best, until someone just rolled them over into oblivion.
…if there is a better already registered example of this type why not replaced onto the main picture. The current picture then switches its place to registered examples. This way the user who added this piece in the first place and only if added picture was marked as his/hers own picture, gets his acknowledgement in examples. Currently this is not the case. Each time new (better?) picture is added, your contribution is for ever forgotten-hidden away. This is also another issue I have on my mind for some time and would probably need its own thread.
We have permission only for pictures from NGC, not pictures from the World Coins, even if they are used on the NGC website.
No way referees are checking that.
Part of the referee's job, I would think, checking the accuracy of sources.
There's a huge difference between what you think part of the job is and what is actually done. Referees accept duplicates back-to-back within seconds, pictures of different coins that don't match the source provided, etc. I know for a fact some don't even have a look at the required comment field with the sources. No way they're checking from which part of the NGC website the picture is from. Most probably don't even know that some pictures from there aren't allowed.
I want to be able to use the photos from the Societat Catalana d'Estudis Numismàtics (https://scen.iec.cat). They publish the journal Acta numismàtica, which includes a notice stating that its contents are licensed under a non-commercial Creative Commons license. I don't know if it is necessary to ask their permission with this type of license.
Referee for Spain, Iberia (ancient), Suebi Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom
I have read everything twice. My question is much more direct. Other than taking a picture of our own coin, is there any other sites that we are pre-authorized to use pictures? Numis or Stephens Catalogue for instance. The purpose is to suggest a new coin be added and use the pictures.
Coins are my way of learning history. My favorite is finding a coin in a country where it doesn't belong and figuring out how it may have reached that destination. AJL
Coins are my way of learning history. My favorite is finding a coin in a country where it doesn't belong and figuring out how it may have reached that destination. AJL
Most of the web sites we're writing just ignoring us or replying for 2-3 months ☹️
But all the wished institutions in this thread and the newly posted ones still get contacted?
Also, if it's an auction, I guess it can go under if it's around an auction date for example, so I believe it makes sense to send it again from time to time.
Also I wasn't able to find a list of current permission givers without going to edit a coin and picking source from permission giving website on picture, is there an easier way to see the list?
I don't think it is even all of them. If you edit/add a coin, the drop-down list gives you all of them.
Yes, it's not all for a few reasons. One of the famous ones is the British Museum. Because Numista only has permission from the Trustees of the British Museum, which includes all of the coins as far as I know, but not all objects in their collection. And it shouldn't be listed as we have the whole permission from them. At least that's what I was told some time ago.
Pages listed here: https://en.numista.com/info.php are those which gave us explicit permission. There are other websites/institutions that give out their pictures for free/with good license - those were never asked explicitly, so they are not on that list.
But all the wished institutions in this thread and the newly posted ones still get contacted?
Can I get an answer to this question? Because with no responses and no new announced sources in the last weeks, I assume the purpose of this thread is dead and I crawled through institutions and their contact data for nothing.
Did not see you got Permission, I got it as well, they are added now.
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