153286 is the one that should be deleted in my opinion as the photos don't appear to be copper as the listing states the coin would be, plus judging by the rarity index of 100, no-one has one in their collection.
There is a difference, see the reverse lettering. On www.duiten.nl it is saved as a different entry. I will try to find the catalog numbers.
Gr. Michael
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PA# 6151 : CAR . DVX . NIVERNENS . ET . RE / DEI . GR . PRINCEPS . ARCHENSIS
PA# 6152 : CAR . DVX . NIVERNENS . ET . RET / DEI . GR . PRINCEPS . ARCHENSIS
PA# 6153 : CAR . DVX . NIVERNENS . ET . RETH / DEI . GR . PRINCEPS . ARCHENSIS
PA# 6154 : CAR . DVX . NIVERNENS . ET . RETH / DEI . GR . PRINCEPS . ARCHEN
This book gives different references for the variants but we only keep one page per type on Numista, so we should group those references together.
Morever, the first link shows the wrong picture for this variant (PA# 6153 as well).
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Salut,
Le premier lien est celui du liard simple, le second lien celui du double liard.
Bien cordialement,
Le double liard n'existe pas.
Il s'agit de la même dénomination dans les deux cas : pas de différence significative au niveau du poids, même type et dimension.
Cette pièce est considérée comme un double liard dans le Poey d'Avant et comme un liard sur CGB d'où la confusion sur Numista. J'aurais tendance à rejoindre CGB pour la dénomination : le poids et les dimensions correspondent au liard classique et la principauté ne semble pas avoir émis d'autres dénominations entre cette pièce et le double tournois.
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Thanks for finding this. The first two coins are the same but the last two are not.
Could someone please delete one of the first two and move the people around. Thanks
Done.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Grouped for the moment, but this might need split later on (a better explained one) depending on the currency system used for Tibet here.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
It seems to be the same coin but made from two different dies : same inscriptions on both sides, but different year (only the place of the "wa" has changed on those pictures).
Can we please get the second one deleted and then I will amend the first one to include information from the other one.
There were two releases of the same coin, one was in a 30,000 mintage coincard to general sale, and the other was a 5,000 mintage special World Money Fair coincard release.
Cheers Mike
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@Cycnos - No for the Sou/Liard from Lorraine, both exist. Others all cleared.
@brismike - Done.
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Cita: "pejounet"@Cycnos - No for the Sou/Liard from Lorraine, both exist. Others all cleared.
@brismike - Done.
Thanks !
For the Lorraine, I still think there is a problem : I have one of them and it weights 1,1g for 19mm....
How could we tell if it's a "2 sous" or a "5 liards" if they share the same design, lettering and have the same characteristics ?
If we have look on cgb : 2 sous, 20mm and 1,16g - FLON #3 var 2 sous, 20,5mm and 1,04g - FLON #3 var 2 sous, 20mm, ,98g - FLON #3 var 2 sous, 19mm, 1,08g - FLON #3 var
2 sous, 18,5mm, 0,87g BUT another design and observe lettering - FLON #3
-------------------------------- 5 liards, 20mm and 1,17g 5 liards, 20mm and 0,89g 5 liards, 20,5mm and 1,06g 5 liards, 20mm and 1,36g 5 liards, 20mm and 0,97g 5 liards, 19,5 and 1,01g 5 liards, 19mm and 0,87g
Medium size of the 5 liards : 19,85mm
Medium size of the "2 sous - FLON #3 Var" : 19,88mm
Medium weight of the 5 liards : 1,07g
Medium weight of the "2 sous - FLON #3 Var" : 1,05g
The "2 sous - FLON #3 var" of cgb and the 5 liards are the same coins as there are no elements to distinguish them. Same about the one the numista page : https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces160785.html
It is just worn for me (the silver layer doesn't appear anymore) : it's the reason why it has a weight that could match the 2 sous. Regarding its shape, I guess the 18,2mm have been mesured horizontally.
So the pictures and lettering of the numista page are for me incorrect.
Only one member claim to have this coin and there is no date on it (so why having an entry with the year "1700" ?) .
I don't see any catalog references on it to confirm the existence of a "2 sous" that looks like that.
For those reasons, I still this page should be merged with the other one.
Delete Indira Gandhi duplicate 50 paise coin, because it was wrongly says 50 INR. There is never minted 50 INR Indira Gandhi coin in 1985. It has only 50 paise, 5 rupees, 20 rupees and 100 rupees coins.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Let's keep it as is for now (i.e. split), this point is part of upcoming guidelines discussions taking place from next week. Meanwhile I move all related to the separate page and added KM#.
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While Krause does not give those types different numbers, they are different types as per Numista standards since both have different compositions (one has a steel core and is magnetic while the other has a zinc core and is non-magnetic). So those pages are all good the way they currently are.
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Fixed.
Pictures were blurry. Will check for others.
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Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
Sapientiae plerumque stultitia est comes.
Si c'est un grand plaisir d'être reconnu par ses amis, c'est peut-être encore plus flatteur d'être reconnu par ses adversaires.
Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
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